Comments on The Pensive Quill: Justice For Marian Price: Public Meeting

Anthony: Thanks for that, Marty has corrected me ...

2012-12-23T14:32:02.501Z

Anthony:

Thanks for that, Marty has corrected me on it as well. But once again my apologies to Gerry and Marian and the whole Mc Glinchey and Price family circles.

Itsjustmacker, Marian's husband is Jerry, not...

2012-12-23T13:59:02.123Z

Itsjustmacker,

Marian's husband is Jerry, not Dominic. Dominic is happily married but not to Marian!

MH- I was trying to better the current PSF one of...

2012-11-29T05:54:20.198Z

MH-

I was trying to better the current PSF one of - 'Building an Ireland of YES men'..

still a work in progress though..

Fenian- " The Americans have a military mott...

2012-11-28T22:50:47.444Z

Fenian-

" The Americans have a military motto 'no man left behind' "

The Americans are not that good at keeping to that motto-there are over two thousand americans left behind during the vietnam war - thats before we even count the rest of the wars that they have fought in-

One final thing, since we are on the subject of Ma...

2012-11-28T18:32:59.017Z

One final thing, since we are on the subject of Marian Price and political beliefs, I would like to draw attention to a very common phrase that is associated with Marian- 'whilst I don't agree with her politics' - I see it has been referred to again in the comments here (no offense tot he person that used it on here btw!).But I really do not understand where this term originated from. Marian's politics is the same vein that has served Republicanism for centuries. Yes, under closer scrunity it could be classed as antiquated, but no matter what you read quoted by her, you are left under no illusion of her Republican principles. There is a photo of a hand carved Celtic cross honouring Óglach Martin Hurson, doing the rounds on facebook with the following quote from him: '"I am very proud to be on the strike for my principles and very proud to be a Republican." In 1981, the harsh realities of being an Irish Republican (and the ultimate sacrifices of many) reverberated around every corner of the occupied 6 counties and further afield. However, with this harshness there was an honesty, integrity and galvanising of the peoples. Since then it has been continuously eroded away only to be replaced by guilt, suspicion, vindictiveness and egotism to name just a few undesirable traits. No qualties befitting of a Revolutionary movement let alone a Republican one. Hence, dissident Republicanism is the splintered mess we see today with a worrying right wing tinge at times, which plays right into PSF's barrow and their british paymasters. Of course, there will be those that will say that there was too much 'romanticism' attached to post '81 Republicanism with an element of dillusion of what could actually be achieved. However,were we not in a much better place back then, as one, with our individual political differences put to one side? Every successful revolution has had romanticism and a certain surrealism at it's core. iI fact I would say it was a necessity in their success. Personally, I think it was the electoral rise of PSF in local elections which changed the dynamics of the Occupied 6. The trappings of electoral success became a comfort blanket(pardon the pun!), and the 6 county political strategy became a half way house as a measure of success for Irish unity! Yet, by accepting, bit by bit, parts of the system you are ultimately trying to over throw, in the end you inevitably become locked into that very system. So today in 2012, comradeship has been replaced by cold, stark right wing agendas, infighting for suppremacy and egotism, to the demise of the utimate goal of Irish unity, which is further away than it ever has been since Partition.

Michaelhenry - you seem with a certain venom when ...

2012-11-28T17:01:44.109Z

Michaelhenry - you seem with a certain venom when it comes to Marian Price, which I find puzzling. You mention her outing of Lord Gerry as being anti Republican, which in fairness their is an element of truth too. However, the big question is whether not Sinn Fein can be classed as Republican anymore? So, was she in fact outing a 'sell out'? I also believe that Marian showed a certain naivety when it came to giving interviews and where she gave her allegiances too, it is increasingly apparent that her Republican heart was ruling her mind!
You also use the term groupie and Gerry Kelly and your sexist innuendo is extremely derogatory and not befitting of a Republican in my book. Of course we all know what you are hinting at and you are showing typical PSF strategy of playing the man not the ball!
The American's have a military motto 'no man left behind' which they paid heavily for in Somalia. A similar motto would have served the PSF leadership during GFA negotiations when it came to 'dissidents' within their ranks and their selective treatment of OTR's etc. Of course the end goal was Stormont and the gravy train!
So yeh see, Mickeybhoy, the bottom line is that your PSF leadership and their minnions are void of any political strategy or ideology let alone Irish Republicanism. Á la carte Republicanism and make the rules up as you go along is the key to PSF's political survival!

Mickey Henry I am curious do you actually believe...

2012-11-28T16:02:01.464Z

Mickey Henry

I am curious do you actually believe what you say it is difficult to decipher your comments ridiculing ex-republican prisoners for being released is a strange concept spineless considering Marian’s internment.
Regardless of her political beliefs, your strange sense of justice is reserved for party members in good standing only.
Putting distance between former comrades to suit your view is denying a well documented past.
You could have at the very least with the aid of the vast amount of information on the web done your homework on the trial and the circumstances of their release which would clearly tell you there is no supposed to be.
I sincerely doubt any prisoner or ex-prisoner would share your warped view the Price sisters done their time just the same as Gerry Kelly and there is no separating or putting distance between that fact.

Oh and let's not forget his IO (Internet offic...

2012-11-27T18:40:41.214Z

Oh and let's not forget his IO (Internet officer) status.

The people of mid-Ulster are very lucky indeed.

Belfast Bookworm Strewth!! as they say in Austral...

2012-11-27T09:52:12.338Z

Belfast Bookworm

Strewth!! as they say in Australia...and on top of all that he's a comedian. Very near to getting my vote!

Larry; I never looked at MH that way. Brings new m...

2012-11-26T20:46:39.424Z

Larry; I never looked at MH that way. Brings new meaning to multi-tasking.

mackers it's spooky to think what kind of cou...

2012-11-26T08:51:26.082Z

mackers

it's spooky to think what kind of country we would be in if a handfull of the 'i'm always right' mob got into power. Israel might give us an idea.

michaelhenry

i for one hope you retain your position in the council. Someone who has the capacity to step outside the practice of doing nothing but covering their own ass whilst kissing Gerry and martin's at the same time has to be a positive.

Michael, Touché. I walked into that one!

2012-11-25T23:56:40.480Z

Michael,

Touché. I walked into that one!

Alfie- " Most people would probably say the ...

2012-11-25T23:29:33.570Z

Alfie-

" Most people would probably say the same about me "

Not at all old hand-i cant have that- ALL would say the same about you-

Larry/Anthony; you're absolutely right. If y...

2012-11-25T19:02:57.992Z

Larry/Anthony; you're absolutely right.

If you're not with them it seems, you're against them. They'd have done well in the Stasi.

Michael, Ah sure I know all too well that you onl...

2012-11-25T18:45:20.225Z

Michael,

Ah sure I know all too well that you only write shite on Facebook. Most people would probably say the same about me!

Larry, which underlines a deeply authoritarian st...

2012-11-25T17:53:44.746Z

Larry,

which underlines a deeply authoritarian strain within the whole ensemble. It is a strange notion that republicanism despite its so called anti absolutism can behave in so absolutist fashion

michaelhenry 'Cant say that about us-i will n...

2012-11-25T17:50:25.132Z

michaelhenry

'Cant say that about us-i will never understand the full time huffs-'

too true, SF and dissidents alike fall out with everyone who doesnt agree with them it seems. Even the odd wind up seems to hurt their wee feelings. Not you I must admit..yer a sketch.

Larry- " Haven't heard a peep outa SF on...

2012-11-25T11:42:29.437Z

Larry-

" Haven't heard a peep outa SF on either issue-

Caitriona Ruane had a statement out to the press yesterday about the narrow water bridge-all funding is secured and it looks like the bridge will be build-peter punt does not want euros to build this bridge-just sour grapes from him-its a bridge to far for peter-

" To many people afraid to let their hair down "

Cant say that about us-i will never understand the full time huffs-

If the reals and raads mark 2 pull of a few big jobs i'll eat my hat-
peter will not leave-he would miss us to much-

Michael Henry; is internment a laugh? Is the murde...

2012-11-24T21:47:44.667Z

Michael Henry; is internment a laugh? Is the murder of Paul Quinn or Robert McCartney a laugh?

I don't believe so. What is a laugh is how you consistently make a fool of yourself on the interweb.

It will be an even bigger laugh when SF dump you for your stupidity.

Michaelhenry After the Orange Order got 3 million...

2012-11-24T20:18:45.668Z

Michaelhenry

After the Orange Order got 3 million the 1st minister has called for an enquiry into european grant money going for a bridge at narrow water.Haven't heard a peep outa SF on either issue.

'I never make excuse's-i write what i write-but-but-but-sometimes larry-Marty-Alfie-John [Seán ] AM - myself might write shite on facebook for a laugh- laugh with us-'

absolutely correct, too many people afeaid to let their hair down.

BTW if the IRA in its present 'reincarnation' gets a couple of spactaculars off, 'peter the punt' will pull the plug on stormont i recon and SF will be workers party mk2. ther'll be some touting done then from you shinners in a haste! lol

michaelhenry. ?TRUE. = Real Republicans who are ...

2012-11-24T14:02:26.213Z

michaelhenry.

?TRUE.

= Real Republicans who are Anti Treaty, Just like myself.

Larry- I cant give information to the Psni about ...

2012-11-24T13:17:34.117Z

Larry-

I cant give information to the Psni
about anyone fighting a war in 2012
because no one in Ireland is fighting a war-get out of your trench Larry-nobody else is about-

Belfast Bookworm-

I never make excuse's-i write what i write-but-but-but-sometimes larry-Marty-Alfie-John [Seán ] AM - myself might write shite on facebook for a laugh- laugh with us-

Belfast bookworm michaelhenry is likely repeating...

2012-11-24T09:32:02.609Z

Belfast bookworm

michaelhenry is likely repeating SF official stance. As for giving info to the PSNI...of course he would. its policy.

Republicans need to shed any blind eyes remaining on that issue. SF are not the IRA. they left that outfit decades ago!

ItsjustMackers; I buy into your theory. MichaelH...

2012-11-24T08:46:09.923Z

ItsjustMackers; I buy into your theory.

MichaelHenry; your absolute lack of sympathy and your disgraceful attitude towards Marion is only what we've come to expect of you. I've read your hateful words about Paul Quinn, the McCartneys, Marion.

You call yourself a republican?

You call yourself a human being?

itsjustmaker- NO- But you support those [ true? ...

2012-11-24T00:00:39.994Z

itsjustmaker-

NO-

But you support those [ true? ] that does name Republicans- your a strange one kid-