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Forgot to add. As usual it's big business to,m...

2013-08-27T14:43:43.916+01:00

Forgot to add. As usual it's big business to,make profit out of others misery.

Transnational corporations are making a killing doing the killing of "border protection".

"The ‘asylum market’ is a nice source of private profits for private, offshore corporations, with $8 billion in contracts awarded in 2012. In 2009 Serco, the biggest player in Australia’s asylum industry, held detention contracts worth $323 million. The same contracts have since hit $1.86 billion and come on the back of a 45 per cent increase in profits in 2011. G4S, another big multinational, runs the Manus Island detention centre, which recently made headlines with allegations from a former employee of rape, torture and self-harm at the facility."

Link:http://overland.org.au/2013/08/the-border-protection-asylum-industry/

Alan- Irish Americans are some of the most open-b...

2013-08-27T13:33:18.051+01:00

Alan-

Irish Americans are some of the most open-bright-honest people on this planet-

The Boston bombing was a war crime against civilians which you have yet to oppose-will you oppose the british bombing of civilians in Syria Alan-or will you just stick to form-

@ Alan Take yer mental health pills love and shut ...

2013-08-27T13:13:12.695+01:00

@ Alan Take yer mental health pills love and shut yer face on this issue = you know jackshit.

Good for you Sean speaking up/out into the face of...

2013-08-27T13:11:54.110+01:00

Good for you Sean speaking up/out into the face of it all.
Re: 'The irony of ‘boat people’ and how the tables have been turned has not been lost by some Aboriginal groups who welcome refugees.'

I think you absolutely got it dead right by recognising the indigenous Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islander ppls voices on whose land we live. It is their voices that I listen to most on this issue...

Imagine if Irish coming over here in droves of late only had one way of getting here. Had to dreg up all they had to get a possible deathride crammed on a crappy boat to the 'lucky country'... This country has never been lucky for the lst Nations ppl and they have forged a long proud battle to get the most basic human rights and onwds. It will be the people of this land who will lead the way more strongly as a new generation is up and coming.

This land has been kind/welcoming to Irish and they should always remember that and our history.
The comparison with Sth Africa is largely spoton - that insidious seething mass of paranoia and residual scientific racism is at play... The seeds of colonisation, white australia policy have left an ugly stain that seems to morph into new antics...

If media could get inside those detention centres in a real way not the tokenism lookin coverage - the general public would see self harm, suicidal ideation, suicide enactment and yes there would be violence, rape etc... Just the same as an overcrowded jail... Mental health issues on ppl who already are traumatised.

RE 'I was struck, but to some extent not surprised, that many first and second generation have quietly assimilated into the colonial context of Australia. All too eager to fly the flag on Invasion Day on the 26 January while forgetting the similar circumstances which forced hundreds of people to flee Ireland due to oppression and poverty which continues to this very day in the form of economic migrants'

Yes I stated in an academic setting how Australia was built on the bones and blood of genocide of the ppl of this land and on convicts. Orphan girls used as breeders because Britain wanted an all white world and the indigenous of this land were raped, tortured, murdered etc Since 1788 Invasion Day day no police officer or screw has ever been sucessfully charged with murder of an Indigenous Australia. Despite the countless deaths in custody despite the evidence That in itself should highlight why refugees are deemed excess baggage, nameless faceless statistics.

Of course when you speak like this in academic settings it goes down like a lead balloon. I think Paul Keatings speech many years ago now (look it up on utube if u aint heard it) at the Block, Redfern unpacked once and for all the truth. I love this country but this is a travesty what is going on We all have blood on our hands on this one...

Irish Americans are some of the most racist and bi...

2013-08-27T11:44:37.898+01:00

Irish Americans are some of the most racist and bigoted people on the planet. Not surprised that the irish in Australia share some of these traits. Do Noraid regard the Boston bombings as a fair response to Yankee imperialism ?

One of the problems with countries admitting refug...

2013-08-27T10:58:04.405+01:00

One of the problems with countries admitting refugees, is as Sean points out those who are capable of rape and torture. It is highly unlikely that these abuses are being carried out by those keeping the camps. Who wants torturers and rapists as part of their society!. I firmly blame the western governments for creating the situations whereby peoples have to flee their own homes/countries.