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itsjustmacker- Thanks for your kind words- AM- ...

2012-12-31T01:33:30.459Z

itsjustmacker-

Thanks for your kind words-

AM-

Agree with you-the PSNI did more than drop the ball in this case- [ you would maybe say in most/every case ]Stephen would be at home now only for stupid bail conditions which he was right to oppose-

Michaelhenry: Its nice to see you are supporting ...

2012-12-30T22:43:55.557Z

Michaelhenry:

Its nice to see you are supporting the release of Stephen Murney, and running down the RUC, Its not nice when you have a camera stuck into your face and being watched by the other PSNI/RUC to see if you push it away, that would mean, CUFFS on right away and interned. I for one appreciate your post and support for Stephen.

Anthony:

The RUC are well and truly back, and, with a vengeance.

Dixie:

The Marty fella was well known during Motorman, but, maybe this will shed some light on this guy, Since the start of the conflict (war), he is the only IRA man who went to court and pleaded not guilty to being a member of the IRA, He was found, NOT GUILTY!, The Brtish new him well, it was Nod Nod wink wink, well That's my opinion.

And today he has announced that he is giving up his seat as a British MP, but will still be an MLA, that will be a big dent in his expenses claims, travelling to His and Gerry's friends house in London and claiming huge amounts of BRITISH money in expenses, Put Marty boy with Gerry Liar on a quiz show "Questions are on, "THE TRUTH",and those two would win it, because they are both quick thinking LIARS, Just like MI5 and there AGENTS!.

As for wee willy frazer, His funding was stopped because it was being used for things other than it was intended for, he has appealed that decision.

Ex prisoners who support SF:

I firmly believe that there are those who are afraid of having their licence revoked, but they weren't revoked when they protested over Padraig Wilson being lifted, now, what does that tell you?. to me that says, if your in, you win.

Michaelhenry, The Stephen Murney case raises even...

2012-12-30T19:49:30.016Z

Michaelhenry,

The Stephen Murney case raises even more concerns. If he wrote to the Quill under a pen name that’s a matter for himself. I had no idea he wrote not would I have had any interest in finding out who is using pen names unless they are cranks. His views like others are welcome here. He should be released immediately without these pernicious bail conditions being slapped onto him. It has often been said that the PSNI is the RUC reincarnated. For some that was discursive labelling. Now it just feels like the RUC. The so called ‘feel good’ factor has dissipated.

Marty,

I recall Richard being made to look foolish over the Brownie articles. But the fibs had started long before then.

Dixie,

I too don’t buy into that suggestion by McGuinness that the British army didn’t know him in the wake of Motorman. I think everybody in the country knew what he looked like then.

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Robert, much of the critique you will hear is qui...

2012-12-08T13:43:43.536Z

Robert,

much of the critique you will hear is quintessentially republican. But the same critique is also articulated from a position that is not quintessentially republican. State abuses are - or should be - a matter of concern to a wider band of opinion than republicanism.

Anthony, 'The gander must surely sup his own ...

2012-12-08T13:00:25.289Z

Anthony,

'The gander must surely sup his own sauce.'

'What is sauce for the goose may be sauce for the gander but is not necessarily sauce for the chicken, the duck, the turkey or the guinea hen.' In this respect I consider the saucier to have dispatched the gravy boat to the wrong table.

Allow me to afford the same latitude, that you consider me to have denied, by reframing my point into a question.

Is this is all quintessentially Republican?

Robert, I didn't say you were middle class as ...

2012-12-06T18:05:16.682Z

Robert, I didn't say you were middle class as I would have no way of determining that. I suggested your comments were revealing of a middle class view of the police.

Unfortunately. Stephen will not be afforded the right of a jury of his peers as he is will face a juryless diplock tribunal.

On what grounds do you determine he has a prima facie case to answer? There mere fact he was remanded into custody?

Robert, I had read all the comments and I still do...

2012-12-06T11:50:55.368Z

Robert,
I had read all the comments and I still don't see where this fits?
Many people who watched the drama of the latest super-grass trial as I am sure you did would be astounded by your comparing their treatment with any type of injustice.
Odious ghouls and gangsters up to their necks in just about everything including murder, drugs and profiteering and they were all out on bail.
Let off eventually because the main witnesses were not credible?
Even you must know there are no-like for like comparrisons in this scenario.

Robert, The comment was never influenced by a...

2012-12-06T09:15:34.691Z
Robert,

The comment was never influenced by a constitutional preference nor the opinion formed from behind union jack glasses.

Yet the same latitude is not applied to those who are alleged to have expressed a ‘quintessentially repunlican’ view. The gander must surely sup its own sauce.

Had Stephen Murney been a member of an Unionist party the same principle would have been applied.

But he wasn’t and the likelihood of him being pursued if he was is arguably less.

There is no simmering sectarian substratum directing my position on this.

Because I took this as a given I didn’t bother pre-fixing my comment with a Robert is exempt clause.

On too many occasions the police have been proven wrong.

How many court records from the trials of wrong police officers show this?

Alec, 'I think your comments are revealing of...

2012-12-06T00:32:19.583Z
Alec,

'I think your comments are revealing of a typically middle class view of the police'

My support for the police is not unconditional but it is consistent. I am very often critical of their behaviour. You would be wrong to conclude from that I am middle class.

'..in a manner that can be easily and innocently explained were he to be facing a jury of his peers.'

While I believe he has a prima facie case to answer if I were to be on that jury I would have to find him not guilty on the current evidence.

Fionnuala, '..how does that relate to this ca...

2012-12-05T23:49:04.824Z
Fionnuala,

'..how does that relate to this case or cases totally relying on secret evidence.'

It is relevant to a comment made by Marty which you may have missed.

Anthony, 'By the same standard is your own co...

2012-12-05T23:45:43.312Z
Anthony,

'By the same standard is your own comment not quintessentially unionist? No matter what the police do they are right?'

The comment was never influenced by a constitutional preference nor the opinion formed from behind union jack glasses. Had Stephen Murney been a member of an Unionist party the same principle would have been applied.

'..scratch beneath and there it is bubbling away.'

There is no simmering sectarian substratum directing my position on this.

Police infallibility? I don't think that should be inferred from my comments. On too many occasions the police have been proven wrong. On balance however I support them.

David, 'Willie Frazer has for many years post...

2012-12-05T23:36:53.305Z
David,

'Willie Frazer has for many years posted pictures of Republicans on line,'

The implication being that this constitutes illegality?

I find a certain degree of inconsistency in this comparison that requires a clutch and gear approach in order to make it work. If it is as you point out,'..strange in the extreme that Stephen would forward intelligence to a state body if he was using it in any clandestine way.', then it should follow that Willie's online dissemination of imagery is equally illogical if he is using it in any clandestine way?

There is an obvious distinction to be drawn. Republicans are not currently being targeted and killed but we know that Republican elements are targeting and killing.

Dixie that fucker is now as big a liar as his imme...

2012-12-05T10:36:50.592Z
Dixie that fucker is now as big a liar as his immediate boss the bearded one...

Martin McGuinness said in a new documentary about ...

2012-12-04T23:54:12.067Z
Martin McGuinness said in a new documentary about Motorman:

“I was in [Derry] and remained in the city for many weeks after Operation Motorman and there were actually several occasions in the weeks after… where I was physically stopped and searched by the British army who hadn’t got the foggiest notion that I was Martin McGuinness. So, I presume, that if I had been arrested at that time, in all probability I would have been either shot or interned.”

However Martin McGuinness had appeared on BBC TV speaking on behalf of the IRA following the Official IRA Ceasefire at the end of May 1972.

Motorman was in 31st July 1972

So according to Marty 2 months later he was being stopped on the streets of Derry during and after a major invasion of British troops without being recognised, yet none of the Brits were shown the TV clip of him speaking on behalf of PIRA 2 months before and told that he was to be among those arrested being as he was a leading member....

I find that hard to believe...

Heres the link to the BBC clip of McGuinness speaking on behalf of the IRA. He actually says they will not be going on ceasefire.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6560000/newsid_6568900/6568929.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&news=1&ms3=6&ms_javascript=true&bbcws=2

Robert, I think your comments are revealing of a t...

2012-12-04T23:23:33.038Z
Robert, I think your comments are revealing of a typically middle class view of the police. You refer to context yet admit to knowing little about the case. Some of the charges are based on material available on social networking sites, hardly supicious behaviour. I admit to having a strong bais based on years of personal experience of British policing, however, it is wrong to insinuate this somehow blinds me to certain facts. Stephen Murney is charged with possessing items in a manner that can be easily and innocently explained were he to be facing a jury of his peers.

As for context; The state is attempting to establish a context that will not stand up to professional scrunity.

Alec, can you repost your last comment? I deleted...

2012-12-04T22:13:39.813Z
Alec,

can you repost your last comment? I deleted it by mistake

Robert, I think your middle class attitude to poli...

2012-12-04T21:24:18.021Z
Robert, I think your middle class attitude to policing is showing through here. Perhaps you fail to see the self contradiction you pose. Without context you are still prepared to give the PSNI the benefit of the doubt in this case. Some of the charges relate to postings on social networking sites which can hardly be described as suspicious behaviour.

I have a sense it would be difficult to persuade you of police wrong doing.

Marty, how true. The 5th of July 1981. A black bl...

2012-12-04T20:42:13.352Z
Marty,

how true. The 5th of July 1981. A black black day in republican history. It ranks alongside Ballyseedy Crossroads.

Anthony those hats will all be big and black ..lik...

2012-12-04T19:20:03.582Z
Anthony those hats will all be big and black ..like his heart

Tom, Hopefully, one day soon, his cupboard wil...

2012-12-04T17:13:26.495Z
Tom,

Hopefully, one day soon, his cupboard will be opened to reveal more than his collection of large hats...

My sentiments exactly.

http://bostoncollege...

2012-12-04T16:36:13.575Z
http://bostoncollegesubpoena.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/moloney-mcintyre-petition-for-a-writ-of-certiorari-in-the-supreme-court-of-the-united-states/

Robert, Are now entering the realms of Jackanory ...

2012-12-04T13:46:33.705Z
Robert,
Are now entering the realms of Jackanory or just plain old fairystories.
Thousands of Loyalists processed through the legal system without being granted bail?
What does that even mean, how does that relate to this case or cases totally relying on secret evidence?
They were usually only rounded up when the blood letting went too far or when their handlers could not longer contain them.
They could do what they liked, still can, even you most realise that?
You'll have us all reaching for the hankies next!

Robert a cara David,s response was imo both eloque...

2012-12-04T11:24:56.758Z
Robert a cara David,s response was imo both eloquent and precise, the arrest of this young lad is clearly part of an orchestrated campaign to disrupt and intimidate the activities of a legitimate political party,who are not in tune with the other quislings.your comment about many loyalists being remanded without bail is entirely correct ,many of those people now realise how much of a pawn in a dirty game they were .but not getting into whataboutery it is obvious to a blind man on a galloping horse that what passes here for policing is nothing more than political enforcing.those who are not in tune and question the raison d,etre of those in govt here are either subjected to attack from "loyalists"or arrest does that sound familiar.

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Michaelhenry: Its nice to see you are supporting ...

Michaelhenry, The Stephen Murney case raises even...

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Robert, much of the critique you will hear is qui...

Anthony, 'The gander must surely sup his own ...

Robert, I didn't say you were middle class as ...

Robert, I had read all the comments and I still do...

Robert, The comment was never influenced by a...

Alec, 'I think your comments are revealing of...

Fionnuala, '..how does that relate to this ca...

Anthony, 'By the same standard is your own co...

David, 'Willie Frazer has for many years post...

Dixie that fucker is now as big a liar as his imme...

Martin McGuinness said in a new documentary about ...

Robert, I think your comments are revealing of a t...

Alec, can you repost your last comment? I deleted...

Robert, I think your middle class attitude to poli...

Marty, how true. The 5th of July 1981. A black bl...

Anthony those hats will all be big and black ..lik...

Tom, Hopefully, one day soon, his cupboard wil...

http://bostoncollege...

Robert, Are now entering the realms of Jackanory ...

Robert a cara David,s response was imo both eloque...