tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post313862588345590502..comments2012-03-22T18:57:48.721ZAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-15758191024466224142012-03-22T18:57:48.721Z2012-03-22T18:57:48.721ZTain Bo/Marty,<br /><br />I found it so funny myself. There is so much truth is so few words. It said it all indeed.<br /><br />John,<br /><br />as always thanks for contributing this piece to the Quill. I guess being ‘right wing’ you will be ideologically opposed to a Christianity that is socialist. I find it heartening to see secularist pluralism being extended to more walks of life and pushing back the authoritarianism of religion. If it doesn’t use others for target practice religion can pretty much go about its business, like any other provate club.<br /><br />I don’t see the cleavage in Irish society along the lines you outline. I think we are seeing a reassertion of the old class divide even of it is not being played out at the political level. But then you allude to the autonomy of the political with your reference to secularism having moved or being rearticulated into the Tory/Lib Dem discourse. Blair was pretty weak on secularism in my view. Actually wanted a blasphemy law. Imagine not being able to mock your local golf club.AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-3877763314781953862012-03-21T16:07:43.629Z2012-03-21T16:07:43.629ZPerfect say it all a caramartyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09814904389826171437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-39163465888863730992012-03-20T21:37:16.191Z2012-03-20T21:37:16.191ZAnthony,<br /><br />this is hilarious thanks for posting needed a good laugh even though there is truth in the 105 words.Tain Bohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09441592658332493965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-46965457681414763032012-03-20T20:34:55.283Z2012-03-20T20:34:55.283ZJust found this on The Atheist Camel Blog: <br /><br />Christianity in 105 Words<br /><br />The belief that a walking dead Jewish deity who was his own father although he always existed, commits suicide by cop, although he didn&#39;t really die, in order to give himself permission not to send you to an eternal place of torture that he created for you, but instead to make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh, drink his blood, and telepathically promise him you accept him as your master, so he can cleanse you of an evil force that is present in mankind because a rib-woman and a mud-man were convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. -- Anon. ______________________AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-69776904880579305192012-03-20T13:58:06.599Z2012-03-20T13:58:06.599ZSaint?MaryHedgehog,<br /><br />You seem so right about secularism being the only solid way forward for Irish society. It has to be a tolerant secularism. At present there are more than a few who want to describe the secular defence of rights as ‘aggressive secularism.’ This is just ideological positioning. The evangelical phenomenon in the US is worrying because it is so transparently false yet millions buy into it and keep giving the charlatans money.<br /><br />Marty,<br /><br />It is also said that man who cannot create a single worm makes gods by the dozenAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-35906468750533733892012-03-18T19:08:34.844Z2012-03-18T19:08:34.844ZSMH Mary hon I know what I,d do with that baton....humanity is a better term for the love of most of your fellow man,than christian..that term has been besmirched beyond repair I,m glad to say hon.the sooner we dump or as they used to say consign all religions to the dustbins of history then the sooner we the working classless can unite on a common cause,but my fear is what will those in power replace god with if it looks like he has lost the plot,remember the saying that if god hadnt existed politicians would have invented himmartyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09814904389826171437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-91225070702268073622012-03-17T22:32:00.230Z2012-03-17T22:32:00.230ZRE: &#39;...baton will be grasped by the steadily growing Pentecostal movement in Irish Christianity.&#39; If and only if they do not become like an ingrown toenail - absorbed in esoteric notions they are on a higher plane of spirituality than the rest of mankind including christians affiliating with an established institution. Atrocities occur within the Pente movement also.<br /><br />The Moral Majority aka the clustersofheadfucks are not just a US reality but exist worldwide. Pseudo spirituality dressed up as righteousness. As a Christian ex Catholic i think the only hope for Ireland is the secular way now. NB We christians have failed in every department and should shut our pontificating cakeholes about what we believe, what religion we glue ourselves to and so on. Shut yer faces one and all and live out what we believe - walk the talk.<br /><br />Liberation theology...<br />RE: &#39;Jesus Christ was the world’s first socialist.&#39; He also exposed the toxic workings of ALL religious institutions thinktanks &amp; the subjugation they enforce whilst purporting to represent the people. &#39;... you who oppress the people - you whitewashed graves&#39; - JesusSaint?MaryHedgehoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16562705541432632976noreply@blogger.com