Comments on The Pensive Quill: Ms Cahill’s Appeal

Ardoyne Republican, 'Had'nt been suspended...

2010-02-05T12:14:02.207Z

Ardoyne Republican,
'Had'nt been suspended from the party'
I think the point is that the alleged WAS suspended from the party when the allegations were made.If yoou can't see the s,tribune is involved in a smear campaign then it's obvious you dont want to.

Ewok so crude..Sinn fein stand on a Republican ticket, stand for election and see how many votes you get.

Interested, you are quite entitled to your opinion as am I.

RED Once again I am not let down by the way most ...

2010-02-05T11:14:10.063Z

RED
Once again I am not let down by the way most paranoid Sinn Fein people think “nobody understands us “ what the statement the unfortunate families of the Hunger Strikers has to do with paedophiles and child abusers I have no idea, please explain. I am not and never have been anti Sinn Fein in fact I have voted for them since 1978 in local elections and would still agree with a lot of their policies, but please do not tell me that by complaining about the cover up that took place that we who complain are anti Sinn Fein. Did the 14 DUP members who voted against accepting the new Policing deal now become anti DUP ?don’t think so, please realise that people have views that they have every right to express and maybe then life will be better all round.

Red, your last comment stated that Republicans wou...

2010-02-05T00:54:08.695Z

Red, your last comment stated that Republicans would cover-up for child abuse?

Would that also cover for N.Belfast S/F who didn't inform the Meehan Clann that their alleged abuser hadn't been suspended from the Party?

Why did S/f wait until the S. Tribune 'outed' the alleged abuser until they notified the public that this elected Party representative had been actually suspended?

Methinks a cover-up, don't U?

Interested, That is part of a statement issued by ...

2010-02-04T09:56:09.921Z

Interested,
That is part of a statement issued by 9 of the ten hungerstrikers families, straight from the horses mouth.
Shame it does not fit with the anti SF agendas but such is life.

I don't believe in covering up for child abusers either and I don't think anyone wittout an anti-sinn fein agenda seriously believes that any Republican would either.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that the re...

2010-02-03T17:24:46.029Z

I don't think anyone is suggesting that the republican movement is rife with paedophiles and rapists but it does have its share and quite frankly one is too many. They do not nor have they ever deserved the protection of the movement and anyone in the movement who has protected them should own up, resign and move on. Nobody should think that their contributions to the movement overall can ever compensate or be used as a justification for them not taking personal accountability for their being complicit in these awful chapters because of their silence, their turning a blind eye or worse their protection of the perpetrators.

One of the last posters is correct, regardless of whether this is the a political movement, the church, a corporation or a country children need to be protected and those who abuse them need to be removed from society and those who fail to protect them or cover it up need to be removed from public life or any position of responsibility forever - there can be no second chances for those that know better.

RE ‘The right to humanity is not something you or ...

2010-02-03T15:44:41.808Z

RE ‘The right to humanity is not something you or I grant people which they may forfeit if they behave in some certain way no mater how obnoxious. They have that right in spite of us.’ Yes… a reality that riles me. Because of this basic human right we can only incarcerate paedophiles and abusers of children… Frankly through the decades I have gone through modes of thinking death penalty but for any taken out this way but more will rise up to replace them. I personally believe in lifetime incarceration with no assessment for release of any kind. It is wearying to read of treatments such as chemical castration, therapy groups, offenders let out on parole crap…. Abusers are recidivist - why even bother putting expensive bandaids on a gaping wound dripping with perversion? THEY HAVE FORFEITED THEIR RIGHT TO BE TRUSTED AROUND CHILDREN EVER AGAIN. The only human right they deserve is food, water and a cell. No TV, no books, no art therapy, no exercise. No freakin’ tea & sympathy number. They did what they did knowing full well it was destroying a child. There should be a desert island where we can throw human dross so they all just implode with their filth and kill off one another. Would save on maintaining them in prisons. I don’t derive any sense of pleasure at the thought of capital punishment for abuse but we kill cockroaches, flies and rats don’t we, with nary a second thought about it.

The Big House is the only option and knowing many screws will turn a blind eye when a pedo is taken out. But still no real solution because more abusers will replace that one in society. The issue of abuse in all its facets requires addressing not just the capture of and incarceration of offenders but addressing the very fabric of society and all the infrastructures that has enabled it to continue unabated. That will be true Justice applied… Ripping it all back to the bones and seeing what facilitated abuse in myriad forms to fester and breed. The primary one is obvious - religious constructs which shaped a compromised, misogynistic society. The solution for rape and abuse of Mother Irelands children is lifetime incarceration of offenders imo. There is still resistance to facing into realities by many. Denial. Shaming those who speak out. Focusing vicariously on details of the abuse rather than viable solutions. The truth is NO child is safe anywhere at anytime in Ireland or abroad and parents and carers need to be vigilant not just for their kids but also other peoples kids. You can see abuse on kids Know the signs. That dead, flat look in the eyes of a child is often a primary indicator. Society disempowered the children from speaking out their truth by shaping a society that didn’t want to believe or see hideous realities. The children stayed silent in their living hells. Enablers should do time as well. The dream is over Ireland - you ain’t noble and sweet - you let kids be treated like lumps of meat. Ms Cahill is the voice of all children past and present who have been abused. She is smashing down disempowerment and shame and fear. An Irish woman to be proud of.

Good Man Red What you have put into print is exac...

2010-02-03T15:05:11.161Z

Good Man Red
What you have put into print is exactly the mindset most of us have of a typical Sinn Fein supporter.
“If we don’t say it don’t believe it”. You won’t believe me but there is a world outside of the Sinn Fein cocoon that you find yourself in, we out in the real world don’t believe in covering for paedophiles and child abusers regardless of whom maybe the aggressor. I would love to hear your views on the Catholic Church and the cover up that they did for people who caused these terrible deeds.

red- yawn all you like,im tired of people like you...

2010-02-02T18:31:58.823Z

red- yawn all you like,im tired of people like you,its not a republican movement anymore anyway,because the sole objective of sinn fein is to normalise and secure the 6-county british state there by solidifying partition,how in the fuck is that an act of republicanism???i think you need to consult a fucking dictionary! anyone who defends anyone that gives refuge to paedophiles has got something to gain from it,you think because someone questions the man that betrayed his own niece his own movement his own people,is somehow on the same level as eoghan harris or kevin myers??? wake up for fuck sake, maybe a picket should be placed outside the homes of those who defend paedophiles???

Don't know about rapists and paedo's but i...

2010-02-01T16:40:38.692Z

Don't know about rapists and paedo's but it's certainly a little UK party run this many a long year by british agents.Anyone defending it has no other life to live.

Yawn Yawn Yawn. Yeah the whole Republican movement...

2010-02-01T15:08:32.415Z

Yawn Yawn Yawn.
Yeah the whole Republican movement is full of paedos and rapists.

That chips getting bigger by the day Anto(or is it Ruth Dudley or Eoghan Harris or Kevin Myers? more like Jim Mc Dowell.

hope so ANTHONY

2010-02-01T00:29:19.671Z

hope so ANTHONY