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2013-09-06T22:14:03.766+01:00

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Can't add much more to what I thought was another great comment by Maitiu-but I will try-

John says-

" I fear I am losing this battle "

Thanks for holing the Loyalist tide back john-I hope you are better at it than King Canute-guns never worked and now they are trying to scare us with words-

Since the writer is such a wonderful Orange man, p...

2013-09-06T11:29:11.370+01:00

Since the writer is such a wonderful Orange man, please allow me to knock three times on the door and await the permission of the worshipful master to enter this discussion.
His article has started with a facetious and bold claim that Sinn Fein have a moral obligation to allow the Orange Order to have their own way and that Sinn Fein will be preventing a loyalist backlash. A backlash that has been threatened for many years yet has never managed to manifest itself. Claims that dissident Republicans are riddled with informers yet dismissing the truth that so are the loyalist groups. Recent UVF super grass trials and various other leading loyalists who over the past ten years have been outed as MI5 agents. Pot kettle black. Far right loyalism is very similar to the far right race groups in America. Having previously lived in the states, I have personal experience of groups such as the Knights of the KKK and the extreme far right neo Nazi group which wished to walk in the area I had lived in, in New York. I wonder if the Democratic party or in particular Obama as their leader, has the moral obligation to allow a vile parade to proceed where it is not wanted?
Ethnic cleansing of a British culture? Really. What is British about the north of Ireland. Beyond being a subjected state of the United Kingdom, the left over remnant of a fallen empire. We always hear about our British way of life yet it is nothing like the real British way of life that persons enjoy living in England. If the 6 counties is so British, then why are we not allowed to vote for the British prime minister elections? Why do the politicians at Stormont have no say at all, in how England is ran? Why once you arrive in England, are you called Paddy and only ever referred to as Irish and not an equal British person?
To mention the United Irishmen as being hijacked by Republicans is absurd. These men were the founders of Republicanism. Based upon the ideals of the American and French revolutions. Equality for all on the island of Ireland.
The whitewashing of the 11th and 12th of July as some sort of fun family day out is a tad off the real truth. Yes, I agree that many a family enjoyed going to the parades and many were peaceful. Though for us who grew up in working class loyalist controlled areas, the 11th night featured masked gun men at the bonfire before it was lit. The burning of Irish flags, Celtic shirts and any election posters of Sinn Fein and SDLP. Around that bonfire, many a drunken teenager started a fight over who supported which paramilitary group.
The 12th day when yet again, hundreds of drunken mobs trailed along behind bands whom were also half pissed.
The comments about political alternatives such as the Protestant Coalition, is laughable. They are publicly a joke. Self statements such as “ we are a non political political party” who will not run for elections. Led by former BNP scam artist, Jim “Dodgy” Dowson. I have yet to meet one Protestant who even takes them serious. These flag protesters are a minority and will remain a minority. The vast vast majority of normal everyday people in Protestant areas, just want to live in peace.
As for loyalist dissidents, he is reading far to much Sunday World. I do believe that a dissident loyalist threat could become a reality but I do not think it will be anywhere near what he describes. His previous comment about loyalists with M16's in the crowds was a great comedic act for those who read it. Loyalism is on its last feet. Society has changed, times are moving forward and nobody I have spoken to in areas like where I grew up, want these flag protesters or a return to the dark days. His comment of how the IRA blew themselves up and how Sinn Fein are marketing that, does he remember the UVF bomb makers who blew themselves up in their kitchen in East Antrim area?
I will end this with one statement. It is not Sinn Fein or Republicans responsibility to cater to the Orange Order. It is Unionism who has failed them and it is Unionism with whom the responsibility lays.

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