Comments on The Pensive Quill: Positioning for the Presidency

Robert ABSOLUTELY. it's amazing we are decidi...

2011-09-23T10:34:08.003+01:00

Robert

ABSOLUTELY. it's amazing we are deciding on a gay rape apologist, a wanabe nun or and mi6 entertainer as president. Anyone but FG.

It could be highly entertaining tho. I might have to vote marty mi6 but only if it causes enough grinding of teeth and angst in D4.

Larry, "Fintan O'Toole actually defined ...

2011-09-23T08:37:19.434+01:00

Larry,

"Fintan O'Toole actually defined what a west brit is today"

Does McGuinness qualify as a "North West Brit"?

anyone know who this rocket is http://www.philma...

2011-09-22T21:03:17.987+01:00

anyone know who this rocket is

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/president-mcguinness/#more-1607

Fintan O'Toole actually defined what a west br...

2011-09-22T19:50:47.660+01:00

Fintan O'Toole actually defined what a west brit is today. Someone who can say for Nelson Mandela to set up the armed wing of the ANC does NOT suggest he was involved in terror or violence. But who refuses to give the same benefit of doubt to McGuinness. West brits also start from a point where IRA, nationalists and nordy taigs are BAD and unionism was a snow white wee entity that was blissfully minding its own business in 1969 and before and since that date.

West brits should be made to emigrate.

In a text poll run by the radio station, Cork 96FM...

2011-09-22T19:39:58.631+01:00

In a text poll run by the radio station, Cork 96FM, this morning, Martin McGuinness emerged with 61% support, followed by David Norris on 15%. All other candidates came in on single figures.

Robert i recall the statement about 'helping ...

2011-09-22T19:39:19.167+01:00

Robert

i recall the statement about 'helping us bring it to an end' coming out and i recall a few 'heads' in Dundalk suggesting Mcguinness could get himself killed. The brits landed him in it. Sadly it was the only time i observed the 'process' questioned.

AM

the IRA wasn't defeated by the 90s, it had been successfully and deliberately run into the ground by two men, one of whom was never even in it and another who never killed anyone directly or indirectly. What a shitty wee outfit.

perhaps decommissioning was a greater priority for those two than for the brits.

we have two choices now for president.

1. A rampant obsessive liar and judas masquerading as a nationalist patriot.

2. An honest, gay, apologist for a statutory rapist.

I wont be voting for a filthy judas lying dog. Go-go Noris, get in there!!!

Robert, most succinctly put. Nothing there I coul...

2011-09-22T18:47:10.066+01:00

Robert,

most succinctly put. Nothing there I could disagree with.

John Chilcott could throw light on quite a lot of things I imagine. I shared a panel with him once at a debate in London. He knew the IRA was defeated by the 90s.

Marty, "..,inbetween rearranging my dental s...

2011-09-22T18:20:44.521+01:00

Marty,

"..,inbetween rearranging my dental structure,.."

I expect a position on your local policing board would be out of the question?

Anthony, "That is true but it was something ...

2011-09-22T18:07:57.647+01:00

Anthony,

"That is true but it was something I long suspected was not accurate. What do you think?"

Churchill`s "..riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an
enigma." covers much of the process. Bew, Frampton and Gurrachaga in "Talking To Terrorists" quote John Chilcot as having verified the authority of the message for Major. Credibility is stretched to destruction in believing that Bradley made a statement of that magnitude without authority. It's significant that the validity of the statement was never questioned only the source and Adams/McGuinness have managed the PRM in accordance to it's essence ever since.

You can listen back on last word archive.

2011-09-22T18:02:08.655+01:00

You can listen back on last word archive.

Saddened, got that too late. Heard the closing mi...

2011-09-22T17:04:36.932+01:00

Saddened,

got that too late. Heard the closing minutes of it but not enough to make a judgement. There was a very interesting exchange between Fintan O'Toole and Eamonn Dunphy on earlier

danny morrison and kevin myers on the last word at...

2011-09-22T16:28:32.688+01:00

danny morrison and kevin myers on the last word at 4.30pm approx today fm

Robert on a wee visit to Castlerea once that was t...

2011-09-22T12:23:25.912+01:00

Robert on a wee visit to Castlerea once that was the line those nice men in suits took with me i.e. that a united Ireland was inevitable,inbetween rearranging my dental structure, had they given me loads of dosh and talked nice to me I may have been tempted to become an agent of influence,come to think of it I was and still am an agent for a socialist republic.

Larry, They are like bishops and he is their pope...

2011-09-22T12:01:20.482+01:00

Larry,

They are like bishops and he is their pope. He can lie to them all he wants and they will praise them for it.

Saddened,

As it went on most of it was about the acquisition of power.

I will never see a united Ireland

Marty,

‘Did Scap state that Mc Guinness was a tout or what did he say when he was secretly filmed?’

He did not say he was a tout. Said he was not a person you could get close to. Had no friends, only comrades.

The Cook Report filmed him. John Ware later played the original recordings which Cook had dubbed over. That’s my recollection of it anyway.

Robert,

That is true but it was something I long suspected was not accurate. What do you think?

12 noon today on talk-radio fintan the fool and e...

2011-09-22T10:54:21.173+01:00

12 noon today on talk-radio fintan the fool and eamon duncey are debating the marty mi6 bid for president. could be good.

cozy little office at westminster may have served ...

2011-09-22T10:52:01.387+01:00

cozy little office at westminster may have served its purpose for both mi6 and SF 'leaders'.

They weren't over there out of sight promoting Irish tourism, or even Irish 'terrorism'.

Slumdog millionaires sold the farm.

Anthony, "I think he told the Brits the IRA ...

2011-09-22T10:22:34.889+01:00

Anthony,

"I think he told the Brits the IRA needed a way out."

But he has always claimed that the author of the famous,“The conflict is over, but we need your advice on how to bring it to a close.” statement was the invention of Denis Bradley.

Robert, Oatley and MI6 were oiut to protect Briti...

2011-09-22T09:17:47.371+01:00

Robert,

Oatley and MI6 were oiut to protect British interests. That meant getting the IRA to halt. He sold McGuinness the line about a UI. Did McGuinness believe it? I doubt it.

In discussing McGuinness's links to MI6 (which are unavoidable given that somebody has to be in contact with somebody) with a unionist one time, he explained to me that McGuinness was not an agent but where he had messed up was in allowing Oatley/MI6 to see how little the IRA was prepared to settle for.

I don't believe he was spreading Brit ideas in the manner that an agent of influence would be. I think he told the Brits the IRA needed a way out

Anthony, "I do not disagree with the points ...

2011-09-22T09:08:00.714+01:00

Anthony,

"I do not disagree with the points you made about Agents of influence, but according to Agee their recruitment is often a very delicate business, especially when the target is deemed unlikely to respond positively to a back hander or threats. In todays language they are gradually 'groomed' to become convinced their aims run in tandem with the spooks political masters."

Mick Hall's citing of Agee brings to mind McGuinness` meetings with Michael Oatley. As I recall Oatley is alleged to have told McGuinness that a United Ireland was inevitable and the Unionists would have to accept it. Could it be that MI6 through Oatley were tasked with creating the idea of a synergism?

AM you nailed it, they're truely brazen and sh...

2011-09-21T22:47:08.622+01:00

AM
you nailed it, they're truely brazen and shameful.

Larry, career republicanism fuelled by the power ...

2011-09-21T20:45:08.835+01:00

Larry,

career republicanism fuelled by the power of patronage is a powerful incentive to go anywhere that enhances the career

AM Are the entire SF leadership hypnotised cult-is...

2011-09-21T19:13:10.485+01:00

AM
Are the entire SF leadership hypnotised cult-ish under the masters spell or did they conciously facilitate the shift to partitionism, stormontism, murderers-ism and inform-ism...

No excuses. SF were in the councils and had MPs elected before decommissioning and all the above. They never needed to pish+shite on 800 yrs of history to go into Stormont.

They think they are going to do the same number on FF as they did on the SDLP. Will be interesting viewing.

End of the day, they conciously chose to crawl up unionisms arshole.

Saddened it was about ambitious politicans with bo...

2011-09-21T18:46:53.429+01:00

Saddened it was about ambitious politicans with bombs,unity is now futher away than ever thanks to the gfa,and the inept negotation skills of psf who surrendered the republican movement, its volunteers, arsenal, and in turn criminalised 30 years of struggle, we,re gonna have to breed like f##k to get the border lifted,so I,m going to do my bit and start at the bottom of the street and work up.its now time for the men and women of Ireland to lay down not their lives but on their beds and think of Ireland...

Did Scap state that Mc Guinness was a tout or what...

2011-09-21T18:31:56.884+01:00

Did Scap state that Mc Guinness was a tout or what did he say when he was secertly filmed by,was it by John Ware? I remember he said something but I cant remember what was said?

The catholic church has been agents of influence h...

2011-09-21T18:18:20.543+01:00

The catholic church has been agents of influence here since the foundation of Maynooth Mick,