Comments on The Pensive Quill: A Force Outside a Force

Sean, What the hell really went on in Omagh th...

2012-12-23T20:24:08.345Z
Sean,

What the hell really went on in Omagh that day. The secret state if you ask me were determined to kill as m,any as possible to discredit what was left of the IRA. And they succeeded.

Thats about the height of it. It's not I don't want to believe I don't believe the reason behind the Omagh bombing was to kill 31 innocent people (or anyone).

I reckon it was to show Gerry Adams and the PRM that they haven't gone away you know .

Did the spooks have prior knowledge? I'd be very surprised if they didn't. Using the shoot to kill/Stalker episode they [ the spooks] knew where republicans would be and what cars they'd be driving and where able to shoot them dead. Gibraltar is another case in question (directly linked to the death of Pat Finucane) and they had info well in advance.

I sit back and read reports on what the HET are doing in trying to give families closure. Fair enough, thats a nobel thing. But wouldn't it be easier and quicker for the HET to clear up the murky story of collusion by simply asking former work collegues to come in for questioning about what they know about the shoot to kill policy. They'd probably get more 'brownie' points if they cleaned up their own back yard first. And probably have access to files and reports too.

I seen a video the other day on the shoot to kill policy and Ronnie Flannagan is on record saying "collusion was down to a few rouge RUC officers" Kinda different from the De Silva report where he claimed it was widespread..

I suspose some of you have read this

A former British soldier who belonged to an undercover unit in Northern Ireland has claimed he and his colleagues resorted to ‘murder and mayhem’ during a secret campaign against the IRA.
Simon Cursey was a member of a 30-man team which would ‘shoot first and ask questions later’. They shot at least 20 terrorist suspects and breached the British Army’s rules of war.

There is no way that could have happened without a very big nod from above..Will Simon be charged with murder? I don't think so. Will he be locked up for two yrs under the terms of the GFA? Again my answer is no.

Here's a collusion type question. Why are the files relating to the Guilford/ Brimingham Bombings locked away for 75 yrs??? Who are they trying to protect?

Or when the truth and reconcilliation process (if it happens) be allowed access. I'm sure the British public would like answers to who covered up what too.

Yeah great article alright. It briefly touched on ...

2012-12-23T04:44:34.620Z
Yeah great article alright. It briefly touched on the Omagh bombing which I've always viewed as the work of agent provocateur's. I'm from Omagh so I understand it's a touchy subject for many who just aren't ready to hear the truth in regards to what the intelligence community was really up to in this country. The stories I've heard are a damning indictment of the role of the British state here. At the time of Micky McKevitt's trial it came out that the FBI/MI5 agent/informer Dave Rupert first heard of the plan to bomb Omagh a full four months before the bomb and passed this on to his handlers. We know this because, unlike in a British court where sensitive information can be withheld from the public on the basis of "national security", the e-mails Rupert send to his superiors were presented to the defence for cross-examination and the admission of the four month warning was contained within these and is now a matter of public record. It's also been admitted that MI5 received information two weeks in advance that a major attack was planned on Omagh. According to MI5 it was dismissed as a rogue Special Branch call but this is hardly believable saying they already new the town was in the cross-hairs of the IRA from whar Rupert had told them previously. And then in the days before the bomb we have the notorious FRU agent "Kevin Fulton" telling his handlers that a massive bomb was being prepared for Omagh on the 15th of August '98. According to this man he not only told them the where and the when of the planned attack but he gave the location of the hayshed in Louth were the device was being prepared. By Special Branch's own admission they were able to track the car on its journey to Omagh so why didn't they stop it. why they allowed the bus load of children in from Buncrana is something that's never been answered given all they knew in advance. The final piece of intelligence was received on the day of the bomb when desk Sergeant Phillip Marshall received the third and final warning which pinpointed the device as being 300 yards down the town from the courthouse - right where it was planted. This information if it had been passed on would have saved all the lives lost that day but it wasn't passed on - Marshall admitted this at the inquest hearings saying he turned off his computer and told no-one. He was never asked why as this isn't the role of an inquest, it's only to establish facts not motives. What the hell really went on in Omagh that day. The secret state if you ask me were determined to kill as m,any as possible to discredit what was left of the IRA. And they succeeded. This is the biggest untold story of the dirty war as far as I'm concerned but somehow I don't think the families will ever get that public inquiry either, like the Finucane's - there's just way too much to hide

Stephen Murney,Marian Price.Martin Corey,Gerry Mc ...

2012-12-22T17:07:32.997Z
Stephen Murney,Marian Price.Martin Corey,Gerry Mc Geough the list of people suffering from this vindictiveness is beginning to get longer,and I,m sure it will be added to in the new year.is this what quisling $inn £ein meant when they said a new beginning ?.

This is a good piece. And what is happening to Ste...

2012-12-22T16:51:29.493Z
This is a good piece. And what is happening to Stephen Murney is downright vindictive

A great post Sean and how right Mikhail Bahunin wa...

2012-12-22T15:53:42.747Z
A great post Sean and how right Mikhail Bahunin was. that term "for reasons of state and national security "are and have been a blanket cover for state criminality since the inception of this state,and it doesnt look like the state and its agencies have any intention of losing its grip or allowing any proper form of accountability into their activities, it is in many ways getting more Machiavellian,the Finucane family like so many others I,m sorry to say havent got a snowballs chance in hell of ever getting to the real truth over their loved ones murders by state agents,and the Irish government are as complicit in covering up the truth as the brits are. I note the announcement today that thirty police officers will be involved in the investigation into whether the "pleb " statement that Andrew Mitchell allegedly made was fabricated,thats the same number of police officers that have been consigned to investigate the Bloody Sunday murders.says it all about british justice really..

Sean A massively important post. Thanks. Yeste...

2012-12-22T15:29:26.654Z
Sean

A massively important post. Thanks.

Yesterday Stephen Murney had a condition of his bail that he could not live in his home town of Newry or be resident with his family at home. Stephen could not accept this and could not avail of the bail. His legal team again pointed out there is not one shred of evidence against their client.

This is the stuff of Franco or Pinochet

Sean: That's an excellent piece, if you look ...

2012-12-22T14:29:55.318Z
Sean:

That's an excellent piece, if you look through most of my posts you will see I have emphasised MI5 being the master of British Agents, not just in NOI but throughout the world, common name for them is "The Suits".
It is they (MI5) who have the say in anyone being given bail or being locked up without trial (Interned) on there own so called secret evidence ,"Made up by themselves"
The British PM David Cameron stated to Mrs Finucane, If I were to give you a full Public Enquiry there are people in these rooms who would not allow it, meaning The secret Service (MI5/MI6). I don't think we will ever get the truth because there files on secrecy are locked up forever, the rule will be, This document can't be released due to International security. and thats the jist of it in a nutshell.