Comments on The Pensive Quill: Reporting to London

Gerard, I can understand your comment but I do fe...

2013-09-05T23:00:19.825+01:00

Gerard,

I can understand your comment but I do feel Anthony made the right call by posting what amounts to a backhanded threat.
As unfounded as it is if he hadn’t carried it then he would be guilty of censoring one of his critics.
A catch 22 dammed if he does and the same if he doesn’t.

An interesting bit with the similar line of loyalist death squads has appeared in a few other places with Fido howling at the moon pointing at Anthony being the Sunday World’s source.
Devlin was here defending Fido but going by the same language elsewhere there would appear to be more than one unhappy person(s) spreading the same manure.

*the policy on recognition of courts changed in 19...

2013-09-05T22:11:17.145+01:00

*the policy on recognition of courts changed in 1983.

*mackers, why you allow such unsubstantiated and deeply vitriolic comments about yourself, carrie and the kids is beyond me. belief in freedom of expression does not necessarily entail allowing an anonymous poster to engage in such projectile vomitting. ... just an opinion.

MH: I'm sure you just sit and make things up,...

2013-09-05T21:24:17.679+01:00

MH:

I'm sure you just sit and make things up, or , you know sfa.

Thousands done it?.

well I'm glad I'm not one of those thousands.

Dixie is 100% correct , and , you state the rule changed! , at which army council did that occur , they forgot to inform the volunteers ,and to hand out green book amendments ,Another McGuinness trick maybe!. Are you enjoying your British Salary MH , I'm sure you are , I don't hate anyone , but , I feel a little sadness for all Shinners.

michaelhenry claimed: "The policy was change...

2013-09-05T19:46:00.231+01:00

michaelhenry claimed:

"The policy was changed in the 70s-
thousands done the same-are you going to have a go at all of them-"

Thats nonsense, I was sentenced in June 1977 over a year after McGuinness and we weren't allowed to recognise the court then.

That spin was put out to cover up for McGuinness - thousands my arse are you really that daft?

It's good to see that you personally don't...

2013-09-05T18:09:07.437+01:00

It's good to see that you personally don't support the use of informers against republicans, whats the chances of your Cumman at the next Ard Fheis calling for a motion of no confidence the Sinn Fein leadership for their support of the use of informers by the British forces, under all their guises?

And it was ok for J118 to break his oath because the Brits gave him immunity, that answers a lot of questions, thanks for the clarification!

As for the charges, under the regime that J118, you and your party support J118 violated British law in the occupied six counties, unless you would agree that the British claim of jusdiction across the occupied six counties is illegal?

Would you agree that the british claim over the six counties is illegal?

I would and as such I would say that those who are administering British rule in Ireland are supporting the illegal occupation of a section of our country, so do you support the ilegal occupation of the six counties?

I'm sure you could ask Francie Molloy for some clarification on how to administer British Rule in Ireland if you needed it.

As for your claim that people named volunteers in the Boston tapes, who named who? Would you care to point out who was named and when?

If you are refering to the late Dolours Price naming Gerry Adams, sure Gerry was never in the IRA or are you saying he was?

itsjustmacker- " he denied he was a member a...

2013-09-05T17:44:57.321+01:00

itsjustmacker-

" he denied he was a member and found not Guilty "

Did you want to say he was a member back then to the court-he would have got a number of years if he did-maybe that's the main reason you are cross-

" So why did he recognise that same
court "

The policy was changed in the 70s-
thousands done the same-are you going to have a go at all of them-

" Nor any Gaol "

Again-check your so called facts out-

Francis Devlin, just out of curiosity as your com...

2013-09-05T16:38:06.416+01:00

Francis Devlin,

just out of curiosity as your comment seems to be all over the place are you Fido’s manger or representative? Don’t you think “the poor sop” can voice his own opinion without you throwing a pity party for him? He seems quite willing to sling insults an active willing participant in the back and forth but definitely not a victim.
Has he been relegated to the subs bench as you now appear to be center forward with your well informed misinformation granted a little easier to comprehend though riddled with the quality of sensational tabloid rubbish?

I don’t mind you having a go at Anthony or his wife what I do find very disturbing is your unfounded allegations that he somehow in your world colludes with Loyalists’ rather than the fact that the loyalists are none too pleased with the Irish News and were happy with Anthony’s piece on calling the paper spineless.
You infer he colludes with loyalist death squad’s that is very dangerous language and you should know well that a smear like that could put the man’s life in danger.

You speak of character assassination as if you are ethical as you rip through not only Anthony’s character but also his wife’s.

Granted you sound a little brighter than Fido but aren’t you just pissing over his piss on the same corner of the street with a stronger stench hoping that some other mad dogs get a whiff and foam at the mouth believing your inaccurate allegations.

You join the ranks of those who exaggerate the power of this blog and if I didn’t know better I could state you and others would like to see it closed down and giving your collusion with loyalist death squads it would not be a stretch to suggest one way or the other would be a sufficient result.

Anthony, I've mentioned before that I'm p...

2013-09-05T15:32:03.040+01:00

Anthony,

I've mentioned before that I'm partially to allegory to make a point. I'll resort to this again to opine on Francis Devlin's contribution.

We used to have a puppy but unlike Firinne I never particularly wanted one. We could not get this obstinant beast house trained.

Once we had company and were sharing the craic while unnoticed the animal sneaked into the room and then dispensed the most foul smelling turd behind the sofa.

Now it was impossible to ignore this horrendous stench, and it was immediately drawn to my attention by my guests. However, they did not decide to stand around the turd, to discuss it's constituency, origin or odour.

No, they ignored it and allowed the owner to clean up the obnoxious parcel whilst they continued with the talk that had brought them visiting.

So in conclusion - someone has just dispensed a foul turd on your blog. I'll leave you to clean it up as I've no interest in discussing faecal matters.

Mackers since you're posting 'confidential...

2013-09-05T13:20:59.575+01:00

Mackers since you're posting 'confidential' correspondence with the NUJ, why not throw it all on the line as it were. Why don't you post the contents of the email you set to the Chairman of Cliftonville FC demanding he sack Fido Murphy? If we're talking snitches that's a pretty underhanded thing to do, considering it was you who dragged the poor sop into your spat with Alison Morris in the first place so lets get it all out in the open. Or what about the emails between you and your new found pal Clifford the pipe bombing pastor Peeples. Launching character assassination on someone you deem the enemy and then passing details on to loyalists to finish off your dirty work for you. Wherever would you get that idea from?
You and Carrie seem indignant with rage that Fido would have the cheek to answer you back and however feebly defend himself, but then that's the thing with playground bullies, they don't like it when the little kid stands up and takes a swing back. We've already established that Carrie is very, very angry. The nature of her attack on Morris who dared to complain to an irrelevant body about her husband was highly personal in nature but now she's upset that young Fido is fighting back. But then take comfort that at least he's not colluding with loyalist death squads. Although he did make a badly spelt, gramatically incorrect point, on the same week when the papers were full of the truly heart wrenching story of Fiachra Daly's young family still homeless and now without a father because of the greed of you and your pal Tom McFeely what were you doing? Ranting about the NUJ/Irish news picking on you. When you were drawing down a big fat wage helping line the pockets of your slum landlord sidekick there was little in the way of moralizing from you then. Notice no debates or discussions on the quill about that. Carrie should take comfort that at least her children have a father and a roof over their head, Stephanie Meehan is not so lucky. Times like this its probably just as well you're an atheist and don't believe in divine retribution. When you were orating at gravesides did you for one second think how our old comrades would view you now, colluding with loyalists, working for a developer to part people from their life savings. When the Societies were asking you to speak do you think any of them considered how the Sunday World gets so much information on its members. Were on earth would they be getting all this detail? How can we establish a link between the SW and someone close to the societies, if only we had a clue who the snitch was, maybe Hugh Jordan knows you should ask him next time you're talking to him. Reporting to London? I tip my hat to you Sir for you truly are the man with the neck of the finest brass.

itsjustmacker I think their actions prove what th...

2013-09-05T10:39:40.684+01:00

itsjustmacker

I think their actions prove what they are down the decades. The reality is they are 'popular' which was their target destination. The fact they are popular makes me consider the mind-set of the population. They do say you get the politicians you deserve. Food for thought?

McGuinness went to court in Derry charged with bei...

2013-09-05T02:23:22.112+01:00

McGuinness went to court in Derry charged with being a member of the IRA, He denied he was a member and was found not guilty!!!!!!!!!!!.

Makes you think , we were told to say nothing and not to recognise the court. So why did he recognise that same court!!!!!!!!!!!.

When I think of all the Blanket men, The Hunger Strikers , and he had never seen the inside of the kesh , nor any Gaol.

Maybe MH could explain that one, was he a Brit at that early stage, just like he is now?.

Lets cut out the bullshite... For a man who was a...

2013-09-04T22:42:30.089+01:00

Lets cut out the bullshite...

For a man who was a high ranking member of PIRA and who spoke on behalf of the IRA several times in 1972 on TV he was never interned, hooded, put away by several supergrasses nor had attempts on his life by loyalists.

In fact google Operation Taurus...

Michaelhenry, you wouldn't seriously agree w...

2013-09-04T19:08:14.718+01:00

Michaelhenry,

you wouldn't seriously agree with people reporting pot smokers to the cops would you? What about people doing the double? I think the point being made to you is that Martin calls for people to inform on republicans doing the exact same things as he did for decades. He actually said that people who do that sort of thing should know the score - the penalty is death.

Correct Frankie that mcguinness should be done, it...

2013-09-04T19:05:42.750+01:00

Correct Frankie that mcguinness should be done, it is a pity that Irish republicans are relying on the brits to bring about a justice for the Irish, because the Irish cant do it themselves. How many rules of the green book were broke by the scum that have tried to bring the Irish down because of so called Irishmen/women. They would have us prostrate and reaching to kiss their hand in subservience. No way, they are traitors and I will never let anybody ever tell me different. Likewise I will never let an opportunity pass to kick that scum in the balls when it arises.

Frankie, I doubt sincerely sectarianism will be b...

2013-09-04T18:50:12.910+01:00

Frankie,

I doubt sincerely sectarianism will be brought to an end the loyalists are loyal to only one rule that is to keep their outdated monarchy pure and free from Catholics.

If or eventually when that law is updated then you would find that the loyalists would not feel so British.
It’s a sad statement sectarianism starts at the highest level of the law and flows down to the streets.

If the law was changed and Catholics were once again allowed to marry into the royal family you would see Ulster’s loyalist on a rampage as that is their only claim to support their distorted belief.

You can’t really blame them for fighting as they are the royal family’s storm troopers and the queen never seems to bothered that her subjects are more than willing to keep trampling on her lesser subjects in her name.

Until the law is rectified nothing or little will change it will remain an orange state where it is the birth right to defend a protestant monarchy.
There should be no support for sectarianism and it is one issue both communities should work together on. If we leave it up to the politicians they will gladly have us at odds in order to serve themselves!

Personally, monarchies are out of touch and don’t belong in the modern world.

Anthony,

I think Danny the man of many hats and his whimpering along with the Irish News moaning is beyond rational understanding.
This issue should have been over after they refused to make an appearance. I see Fido and his Mistress are at it again a disgraceful way for a reporter to behave considering she is so concerned with ethics.

It seems the objective is to shut the quill down?

I remember 4 or 5 years ago this was a quiet wee corner where you could square off and banter away.
Now it seems that some unhappy campers over exaggerate the power of a small blog and have probably brought more readers along in their attempts to silence the quill.

SnowTorch- " Where do you stand on the use o...

2013-09-04T18:15:46.562+01:00

SnowTorch-

" Where do you stand on the use of informers "

If you are talking about Republicans telling Republican tales then I am opposed to it-but I would support a member of the community who wanted to report about drugs use to the PSNI-you might be different but that's your choice-

" Will your party be calling for charges to be brought against Martin "

What charges are these then-

" He gave information away willy nilly "

Like what-he had Immunity under the Bloody Sunday Inquiry and no charges were brought against any Volunteers from Martins Testimony-

" Does admit he ran away and hid in 1974 "

I have seen him on the news and public life over the last 35 years-
he was not hiding that well-
Fought for 4 years or so till 1974-i would not run down any Volunteer for fighting then-unlike yourself-what year did you run away-
Those that named Volunteers in Boston did violate their own-some-thing which you don't seem to have a problem with-

Should McGuinness face the full weight of the (...

2013-09-04T17:22:10.902+01:00
Should McGuinness face the full weight of the (British) law for what your party would state are illegal activities

Yes....Everyone else seems to be facing 'due process'...Personally pre 1998, chalk it up to the blues and give everyone (Republicans, Loyalists and State forces) a by ball. Sooner or later that's what's going to have to happen.

Then there is a better chance of the sectarianism getting stamped out.

Michael, given that your party has not only called...

2013-09-04T00:15:32.519+01:00
Michael, given that your party has not only called on people to give information to British forces of occupations paramilitary police force many many times, but that Sin Feins's Gerry Kelly has publicly supported the use of informers - where do you stand on the use of informers?

Also on the subject of informers now that Padraig Wilson & Co will face charges of (P)ira membership etc, as supporters of the British rule of law here in the six counties will your party be calling for charges to be brought against Martin McGuinness?

Despite McGuinness informing on himself by admitting he was a member of (P)ira, what's strange for such a 'staunch republican' he didnt even break under interrogation or torture at the hands of the British, he gave the information away willy nilly, when many others held their tongues and still spent years in British hellholes. Although McGuinness does admit he ran away and hid in 1974.

Should McGuinness face the full weight of the (British) law for what your party would state are illegal activities.

p.s. (If I was a shinner I'd be concerned about his trustworthiness after all he did violate the oath he took when he was sworn in! God knows what else he's told!)

I look forward to your detailed analysis in response.

is like trying inform sheep that they are nothing ...

2013-09-03T22:15:49.537+01:00
is like trying inform sheep that they are nothing more than food for humans.

The sheep will merely look back and baa, then continue eating grass.
Dixie.

first laugh i've had in a long time, you've a way with words dixie. and unfortunately, so true.

One wonders if the Comrade reporting to the Minist...

2013-09-03T21:59:53.344+01:00
One wonders if the Comrade reporting to the Ministerium für Journalistensicherheit - Jasi (Ministry for Journalistic Security) wielding the shield and the pen realises a policy of Zersetzung (corrosion) is only truly successful when the victim is unaware of the attempted to 'switch them off'?

Is the Comrade noted in the preceding piece even an active member in the Ministry or acting as a self appointed freelance Inoffizieller Mitarbeiter (google that one yourself)?

michaelhenry your half-baked attempt at throwing o...

2013-09-03T16:06:08.599+01:00
michaelhenry your half-baked attempt at throwing out the 'tout' smear (snitches in ditches)holds no clout with anyone outside of Adamsism.

"those that give the names of Volunteers to boston and told what jobs those Volunteers were responsible for back in the day..."

Has to be the most idiotic statement I've heard yet in regards to this.

To try and explain to your likes that those who left their testimonies on tape were dedicated and brave volunteers who wanted their stories left for future generations is like trying inform sheep that they are nothing more than food for humans.

The sheep will merely look back and baa, then continue eating grass.

It seems that anyone who exposes the dirty past deeds of certain members of PIRA are branded 'touts'. Not even a victim of rape and abuse is spared this label, as is presently happening on certain forums.

It would seem that the leadership of SF have taken lessons from the CIA and MI5 in the smear department...

All whores in sewers.

I have always held the view that the snitch who st...

2013-09-03T13:32:40.466+01:00
I have always held the view that the snitch who stayed out of the ditch was among those that give the names of Volunteers to boston and told what jobs those Volunteers were responsible for back in the day-the proof is in the pudding and those givers of names took big spade-fulls-

Tattle-tale, dear oh dear, 'if the hat fits...

2013-09-03T11:08:46.596+01:00
Tattle-tale, dear oh dear, 'if the hat fits'.

Not much left to say about that.

I can see his eyes upon us...

2013-09-02T22:18:51.194+01:00
I can see his eyes upon us...

From Mick Browne "Broadsword callin...

2013-09-02T22:02:45.675+01:00
From Mick Browne

"Broadsword calling Danny Boy, Broadsword calling Danny Boy, come in Danny Boy....."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UM4U77oDEY

Comments on The Pensive Quill: Reporting to London

Gerard, I can understand your comment but I do fe...

*the policy on recognition of courts changed in 19...

MH: I'm sure you just sit and make things up,...

michaelhenry claimed: "The policy was change...

It's good to see that you personally don't...

itsjustmacker- " he denied he was a member a...

Francis Devlin, just out of curiosity as your com...

Anthony, I've mentioned before that I'm p...

Mackers since you're posting 'confidential...

itsjustmacker I think their actions prove what th...

McGuinness went to court in Derry charged with bei...

Lets cut out the bullshite... For a man who was a...

Michaelhenry, you wouldn't seriously agree w...

Correct Frankie that mcguinness should be done, it...

Frankie, I doubt sincerely sectarianism will be b...

SnowTorch- " Where do you stand on the use o...

Should McGuinness face the full weight of the (...

Michael, given that your party has not only called...

is like trying inform sheep that they are nothing ...

One wonders if the Comrade reporting to the Minist...

michaelhenry your half-baked attempt at throwing o...

I have always held the view that the snitch who st...

Tattle-tale, dear oh dear, 'if the hat fits...

I can see his eyes upon us...

From Mick Browne "Broadsword callin...