Comments on The Pensive Quill: Led Zeppelin

I failed a health and safety course at work today,...

2011-10-18T20:25:14.715+01:00

I failed a health and safety course at work today,one of the questions was,"in the event of a fire what steps would you take?" fucking big ones was apparently not the answer.....what does Betty Driver and her famous hotpots have in common? both are f##kin stone cold...I took my son out for his first pint,bought him a Fosters,he didnt like it so I had it,I then bought him a Carlsberg he didnt like that either same with the Guinness and cider by the time we got to the Jack Daniels I could hardly push his pram...Sky sports have announced that from next season onwards Man Utd will be the only English team shown on Sky sports 1 and 2 .Liverpool games will be shown on the History channel, Chelsea games can be seen on the African movie channel. and we can watch the Celtic games on the cartoon network...shark.lobster,crab ,scouser...which is the odd one out? ...the shark....the other three wear shell suits and pinch like fuck....Paul Mc Cartney is finding marrige hard,every time his new wife asks for a foot rub he reaches for the sandpaper..I was having a lovely sleep earlier untill some inconsiderate fucker decided to bounce off my windscreen...apparently Amand Knox is going to stay at her parents home when she gets back to the USA,,,,as she is struggling to find a flatmate...Harley Davidson died and went to heaven,,he was boasting to god how he created the best motorbike in the world! god disagreed saying Hondas were better designed bikes Harley said "what the fuck do you know about design you created woman and look at the problems we have with them!" "ahem" says god "I think that you,ll find a lot more men are riding my creation than yours"...

André, just read today about Pentamgle. They seem...

2011-10-17T18:01:15.870+01:00

André,

just read today about Pentamgle. They seemed a good goup.

Anthony, Thanks for the article. After saying all...

2011-10-17T15:10:36.317+01:00

Anthony,
Thanks for the article. After saying all that, I still enjoy listening to Led Zep.

On Bert Jansch, for those who don't know, he founded with an other guitar victuoso, John Renbourn, the folk rock band Pentangle. It's worth listening.

AM- I dont think i could read The Quill without ...

2011-10-17T11:34:50.930+01:00

AM-

I dont think i could read The Quill
without hearing the led-

Andre, just found this, reading up on the matter....

2011-10-17T08:57:53.212+01:00

Andre,

just found this, reading up on the matter.

"Beyond blues and rock, Page was fascinated with folk styles, and one of his biggest influences was the British folk guitarist Bert Jansch. Page loved to combine Celtic and Indian influences, so he took the main theme of Bert Jansch's "Blackwaterside", performed as an instrumental adding a tabla and retitling it "Black Mountain Side". Where Jansch's recording of "Blackwaterside" is credited as "Traditional, arranged Jansch", Jimmy Page gave songwriting credits for "Black Mountain Side" to himself. In 1977 interview in Guitar Player, Page admitted, "I wasn't totally original on that. It had been done in the folk clubs a lot; Annie Briggs was the first one that I heard do that riff. I was playing it as well, and then there was Bert Jansch's version. He's the one who crystallized all the acoustic playing, as far as I'm concerned." Bert Jansch is aware of the influence he exerted over Jimmy Page. In a 2007 interview in Classic Rock, Jansch observes, "the thing I've noticed about Jimmy [Page] whenever we meet is that he can't look me in the eye." When asked to explain, Jansch continues, "Well, he ripped me off , didn't he? Or let's just say he learned from me. I wouldn't want to sound impolite."

Bert only died last week I discovered while looking this up. Page should at least have the decency to acknowledge the guy.

Andre, you are right. My mistake.

2011-10-17T08:42:32.386+01:00

Andre,

you are right. My mistake.

AM you are a good man

2011-10-17T03:43:31.484+01:00

AM you are a good man

Anthony, Black Mountain side is on the first Led ...

2011-10-16T23:59:03.035+01:00

Anthony,

Black Mountain side is on the first Led Zep album. So It was right from the start. Here is Bert Jansch playing Black water side:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkX7Q2J7k48

André, Zep were finished by the time that came ou...

2011-10-16T23:11:22.225+01:00

André,

Zep were finished by the time that came out. Coda. It was after the death of Bonham. Don't know why they even needed the piece on the album. It was hardly making their career.

Frankie,

for all of that I think they were without equal.

Michaelhenry,

do you listen to Zeppelin?

Frankie, don't forget about Page stealing fro...

2011-10-16T22:31:46.595+01:00

Frankie,

don't forget about Page stealing from Bert Jansch (who sadly passed away recently):

Here is what we can read in Wikipedia about it:
In his early career, Jansch was sometimes characterized as a British Bob Dylan.[18] Jansch followed his first album with two more, produced in quick succession: It Don't Bother Me and Jack Orion[19]—which contained his first recording of "Blackwaterside", later to be taken up by Jimmy Page and recorded by Led Zeppelin as "Black Mountain Side".[20] Jansch says: The accompaniment was nicked by a well-known member of one of the most famous rock bands, who used it, unchanged, on one of their records.[21] Transatlantic took legal advice about the alleged copyright infringement and were advised that there was "a distinct possibility that Bert might win an action against Page".[22] Ultimately, Transatlantic were dubious about the costs involved in taking on Led Zeppelin in the courts, and half the costs would have had to be paid by Jansch personally, which he simply could not afford, so the case was never pursued.[23]

Anthony...led Zep simply copied the bench mark.. ...

2011-10-16T14:55:55.467+01:00

Anthony...led Zep simply copied the bench mark..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64ToDrvDKCE

Waylon Jennings, Elvis, Jerry Lee, Carl perkins..They smashed up hotels long before anyone.

AM- Enjoyed reading that [ twice ] whilst i liste...

2011-10-16T00:11:23.399+01:00

AM-

Enjoyed reading that [ twice ] whilst i listened to joy division-

Heavy rock would beat heavy politics on any saturday night-

I agree with page when you wrote about his misgivings with the heavy rock tag- but once any group has got a music character it is very hard for them to be seen different- no matter about the tune
unless someone leaves the group and goes single- but the group will always be seen as hard rock-