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Pablo: Some sites are set up by MI5 to throw out ...

2013-07-27T00:11:28.313+01:00

Pablo:

Some sites are set up by MI5 to throw out

disinformation , thus , Making people think its the

truth. The British are the biggest propaganda liars in

the world, and , they will never change. unfortunately

SF have followed suit.

In the halls of whitehall , the heart of the British

Government , is a corridor which is controlled by

MI5/MI6, even David Cameron admitted this to Mrs

Finucane when she went, thinking he was going to say,

Yes mrs Finucane, we are authorising a full public

inquiry into your late husbands murder, but no, he

didn't, he said, "There are people within these

corridors who would no allow it", meaning MI5/MI6.

As for PW , I have met him a few times in the early

days , considered to be a bit of a hard man, yet , I

have never seen him having a go!, But , He has the

gift of the gab . But , then again ,food for thought,

a lot of names have been put forward Regarding the

Loughgall and Gibralter asasinations .

I doubt very much if PW would lower himself to that

depth.

Don't forget Donaldson , outed by the Brits and

disowned by them, after 20 years of being an agent to

be executed , "ON WHO's ORDERS? , Could it be within

SF?.

That's just my opinion though , and me considering

myself to be logical.

It is the same PW but there is no reason whatsoeve...

2013-07-26T00:04:23.538+01:00

It is the same PW but there is no reason whatsoever to believe any of those allegations against him. Even his critics would dismiss them with contempt.

Is this the same Padraig Wilson that set up the Lo...

2013-07-24T21:34:17.486+01:00

Is this the same Padraig Wilson that set up the Loughgall Martyrs and the Gibralter 3?

http://cryptome.org/fru-hayward.htm

Anthony. Pessimism and I don't agree. Most o...

2012-11-25T22:47:39.667Z

Anthony.

Pessimism and I don't agree.

Most of us on tpq know the ruc didn't investigate Jean McConville's execution, they couldn't because no body was available at that time,and only those involved knew were her body was, as for the "Dark", Brendan Hughes (R.I.P), he had no reason to tell lies, I think I met him on three occasions, I found him to be a very honest and genuine comrade, As I stated in the above post, If your brief's have stated that no investigation was ever carried out by the ruc and all this came to light by disgrunted ex RUC/Special because they did not like the name of the old RUC being lost and they approached the McConville family and told them to sue Adams, those same two started a security company and are hired by the british govenment to train afghan police, or, should i say, "Taliban Police", just goes to show what a cock up they are doing over there. Be positive Anthony, never look on the down side, it can make you ILL, we all have been to hell and back,But you been there more than I. Chin up.

Itsjustmacker I hope you are right but I am forev...

2012-11-25T21:53:41.546Z

Itsjustmacker

I hope you are right but I am forever the pessimist.

Frankie, We simply don’t know for certain what th...

2012-11-25T11:13:50.077Z

Frankie,

We simply don’t know for certain what the motives are behind the subpoenas. We rely on the best argued explanation. In recent days some people have been expressing a view I have held for a while – that an element in Brit thinking is to curb the SF push for inquiries into Brit behaviour by letting Adams et al know that they may be dangerously exposed on this one.

The Brits we know could have arrested Adams in the past had they wanted to. I don’t think any one perspective on this issue explains all the motivations persuasively without taking account of competing perspectives. I guess there is a multiplicity of motives and agencies involved.

What we do know is that both the Brits and SF want a revisionist version of the past.

The PSNI don't care who is locked up. SF on the other hand do very much.

The cops tried to prevent that guy from Derry getting bail on the grounds that they were concerned about his safety. Rubbish. Not one toss do they give. SF only care if it is their own people locked up. But even here they now know how exposed they are on the issue. They want political policing to be used to protect their own membership.

In terms of leading by example do you not think many at a senior level have been doing that for years without telling those they were leading? I imagine this is what made the current position so acceptable to them. It seems to me agents of influence abounded.

Belfast Bookworm,

I think you are right. I doubt very much that the family of Robert McCartney came forward at the behest of the PSNI. I think they have made a wrong move here but they probably feel that it is important to tackle those they think were responsible for the cover up just as much as those responsible for the killing.

Marty, the chances that there is an out of con...

2012-11-21T19:17:37.011Z
Marty,

the chances that there is an out of control cabal of ex ruc detectives now working for the psni working on their own agenda to GET Adams and others in turn wrecking the "peace Process" is fanciful thinking indeed by Kelly and his cronies in quisling $inn £ein, everything the Brits do and that includes their employees in the psni or the jails for that matter is controlled

Certainly starting to look that way.

As much as I might have liked Gibney on a personal basis his writing is irredeemably sycophantic.

Frankie

One day the truth will out and you and Ed will be vindicated.

Hope you are right.

Told a couple of university buddies today about th...

2012-11-12T20:06:52.531Z
Told a couple of university buddies today about the stakeknife book and marty's comment that post 1979 all touts were killed by friendly fire. Greeted with suppressed laughter and shock.

Yip Anthony never mind the long war it really was ...

2012-11-12T19:37:01.051Z
Yip Anthony never mind the long war it really was surrender for slow losers,

Larry, as Morrison argued, it succeeded in achiev...

2012-11-12T18:38:59.107Z
Larry,

as Morrison argued, it succeeded in achieving a surrender

"This is the only IRA campaign that has succe...

2012-11-12T10:16:35.014Z
"This is the only IRA campaign that has succeeded"

sounds like Winston Churchill after Dunkirk. If yer gunna tell a lie tell the biggest one you can dream up.

MichaelHenry..I didn't say you know anyone inv...

2012-11-10T22:12:09.825Z
MichaelHenry..I didn't say you know anyone involved within armed republicanism today (don't try to twist my words or avoide the question). Why wont the current leadership of SF-PRM do the informing themselves? Before you tell me you can't speak for anyone but yourself...You talk about SF's actions, policies etc in almost every post.
The peice/interview that Marty & Anthony talked about Gerry Adams mentioning names of RIRA members can be read in full here..
Interview
In part 3 of the interview where Gerry believes...
"This is the only IRA campaign that has succeeded"

He proceeds to claim that several figures in the Real IRA – again, he names them, but for legal reasons I can't – are in the pay of the British. But why? What's in it for Britain?

Anthony I believe I read that as well wasnt it an...

2012-11-10T18:38:09.508Z
Anthony I believe I read that as well wasnt it an interview given in a plush Dublin hotel.Mickeybroy if you believe Dolores then it means you think Gerrybroy is a liar,cant have it both ways doh wait a mo ,mmmm yeah ya can when your a member of quisling $inn £ein.. political policing lock them up-let us out!

Michaelhenry, according to a journalist with the ...

2012-11-10T18:21:00.803Z
Michaelhenry,

according to a journalist with the Independent (London) Adams named people to him as being in the Real IRA during the course of an interview

I thank heavens i'll NEVER be on any of those ...

2012-11-10T16:46:10.036Z
I thank heavens i'll NEVER be on any of those walls.

frankie- " why dont SF go tell the psni all ...

2012-11-10T13:40:53.655Z
frankie-

" why dont SF go tell the psni all they know "

Thats up to anyone whos heard or seen anything worth reporting-as for me i have seen nothing or heard nothing your honour-

" While you are at it..explain this "

Martin never named anyone-but i have a copy of the sunday world in which the spoksperson for the 32 sovereignty actually does name a person-her OC-can you explain that-
ohh the hypocrisy from the few-

Larry I dont know about Martybroy maybe they,ll fe...

2012-11-10T12:02:53.738Z
Larry I dont know about Martybroy maybe they,ll feed him to the fishes, but Gerrybroy hard to bury something that never was , maybe a hole on a lonely beach with a plaque on it with the legend "It wasnt me !!"

FFS Dixie are you suggesting that there are member...

2012-11-10T11:50:24.005Z
FFS Dixie are you suggesting that there are members of Derry $inn £ein on the DOLE How very dare you!

Larry, Martin McGuiness from my understanding was ...

2012-11-10T10:16:24.882Z
Larry, Martin McGuiness from my understanding was a volunteer . So yes his name can go on the roll of honour. But Gerry never was in the IRA so...No (but I think they'll make an exception to the rule for Gerry Adams)
itsjustmacker..Thanks for clearing that up for me about the RUC not investigating Jean McConvilles death ..
Michealhenry..You are a SF member. Can you please explain to me (I've asked twice already)..Why are SF asking people to become informers? Why wont they do it themselves?
Alex Attwood said this Sinn Féin's position is, on one hand, to call on people to provide information to the police but, on the other hand, not to do so when it relates to a Sinn Féin member. This is how shallow Sinn Féin's position is and no-one should buy into it.
MH I am serious. Why don't SF(PRM) go and tell the PSNI all they know about republicans who refuse to put away their guns? Answer that one simple question.
They are quick of the mark to ask 'Joe Blogs' to to just that. I remember martin McGuiness saying this..
interview
While you are at it..explain this..(listen to what McGuiness said..)
speech

(fingers crossed the links work)..

Michaelhenry, perhaps that is why Conor Murphy is...

2012-11-10T08:56:53.491Z
Michaelhenry,

perhaps that is why Conor Murphy is protesting. He treated a Protestant very unfairly and the tribunal found against him on it.

michaelhenry Something crossed my mind recently a...

2012-11-10T08:54:24.329Z
michaelhenry

Something crossed my mind recently and i'm hoping you in your capacity as a SF concilor can clear it up for me. When martin McGuinness and Gery Adams die with their names go on the roll of honour plaques for dead IRA volunteers?

If so will chief constable Baggot's name go on there too?

Michael Henry; 'other groups have now been s...

2012-11-10T00:03:13.695Z
Michael Henry;

'other groups have now been shown the way'

Do you realise how silly this attempt at arrogance sounds?

There are real people, republicans locked up in Brit gaols and you're so flippant and dismissive of the issue.

And you have heard others say there should be protests at internment. What others? Your mates in sinn Fein who facilitate it, cry out for it?

I actually look forward to the day when the shinners dump you, because they will you know, once they get tired of you showing them up on t'internet. You're what is commonly known as a bucketmouth.

Anthony. Things are looking up, and, I hope the c...

2012-11-09T23:51:52.337Z
Anthony.

Things are looking up, and, I hope the continue to do so, To be honest, and, I'm not trying to put you on a false winners situation, I firmly believe you and Ed will win this case, The judges realise the amount of work you , Ed and your Briefs have put into this case, and, I believe that they are looking back to when the RUC never even tried to investigate the disapearence of The Late Jean McConnville ,Thats why You will win this case.

Frankie.

Why don't they look at the investigation carried out by the RUC in 1972..?

There was none.
This all came to light by two bitter Ex RUC men, who advised the McConnville family to sue adams, those two same men are training afghanastan police on dirty tricks policing!

Michaelhenry. Good to see that rogue unit getting...

2012-11-09T23:35:59.214Z
Michaelhenry.

Good to see that rogue unit getting its claws clipped with the bold Padraic being let out- they dont like big protests outside the Knock headquarters-not good PR for Baggot-

Yep, 100 to 150 bused in and they all got expenses!, but, at least you admit that there is a rogue ruc unit, they are the same ones who advised the Mc Connville children to sue adams, they haven't gone away you know!.
As AM stated, why don't you get those protesters back and protest against Internment, Oh, I forgot, you only protest for your own.
The only reason he was let out on bail was, MI5 contacted the judge, FFS mh, you cant be that stupid,but the big question is, who are MI5 protecting, who contacted them and stipulated that PW should be released or given bail with minimum conditions, or else!!, now, why did I use the word; "OR ELSE"?. The agents are still within and still high up on the the British Queens (MI5) Payroll.
I for one am watching this case with great interest.
The old saying ; todays news is tomorrows history, well, those days have gone as far as Im concerned, I never forget, I might be getting a bit older and the auld memory is not what it used to be, but I can still place my memory back to the morning of Internment, when I was in Ardoyne, the agents were at work even on that fateful morning, info has it that the agents were pin pointing addresses of ,and IRA members on the streets hidden in the pigs, would you remember the "PIGS" mh, I do!.

Marty; maybe you have a point. Maybe the Brits are...

2012-11-09T23:09:22.194Z
Marty; maybe you have a point. Maybe the Brits are just manoeuvring the puppets into even more compromising situations, allowing them enough free rope while they gather the dirt until the time is right to expose them.