Comments on The Pensive Quill: Screw With A Conscience

where do they get them?

SMH, ‘All the time, all the time in counselling a...

2012-08-10T11:33:54.729+01:00

SMH,

‘All the time, all the time in counselling and interventions...’

I am not aware of that nor have I made much of an effort to find out and you would be more aware than I am.

‘Normalisation of abortion is well entrenched.’

Is it normalisation as a procedure or an ethic?

I think it makes some sense to make it normal and deprive the religious mob of one of its clubs - the abnormality screech - for beating people over the head with.

Sorry that I didn’t get to read the link. Resend it as a personal e mail and that way I will have it as a reminder.

‘It is different from' gas chambers' in that respect as the foetus belongs to a thinking person who has the right to decide what to do.’

But we are still left with the dilemma of the right not to be murdered which has to override the right to make choices. I can’t freely choose to murder someone. I could go along with your argument only for the fact that you seem to crash it when you use the term murder.

‘Short of standing outside abortion clinics shouting It is murder...’

But you will probably find that the type of people who do that are those who prefer to see the spread of AIDS rather than approve condom distribution all because of how religion has distorted their moral compass. Alfie had a useful term ‘religious douche bags.’

mackers whisky?? ffs do ye not think im a humpy en...

2012-08-09T13:42:04.099+01:00

mackers
whisky?? ffs do ye not think im a humpy enuff we dumpty? No dramas big man..just a speed bump in the road of life. But Michel McLoughlin giving advce...? Think i'll try elsewhere.

Regardless, it is best left where it is. Try a whi...

2012-08-09T13:32:39.385+01:00

Regardless, it is best left where it is. Try a whiskey - worked wonders for me last night.

Mackers ive just reached saturation point with all...

2012-08-09T13:30:10.614+01:00

Mackers
ive just reached saturation point with all the negativity, victimhood and what i consder a point blank and deliberate refusal of 'we' the people seeng any fault or complicity in the ills of society. Just tiring and pathetic. Haven't gone away ye know, just having a kit-kat. In desperate need of a happy-pill.

good call Larry. He who fights and runs away lives...

2012-08-09T13:24:21.035+01:00

good call Larry. He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day. You were going nowhere on this one. Cutting your losses and running is the wise decision. Gives you time to reflect and regroup the points you wish to make. Mitchell McLaughlin once told me that sometimes when you meet failure but think you are right you have to step back and take a longer run at the fence you want to jump. In the round it is good advice. In your case compare the wonderfully composed piece you did on Rangers against the rants here. That should let you know where your strengths are. Stick to them.

ditto same people same bleeting... saturation poin...

2012-08-09T11:48:25.400+01:00

ditto
same people same bleeting... saturation point well and truely passed. slan.

Many years ago, before I had even seen the inside ...

2012-08-09T11:18:38.699+01:00

Many years ago, before I had even seen the inside of a jail a guy at work said to citing Riobert Bruce 'if at first you don't succeed ...'

He ws inviting me to complete the sentence which I did.

'try and try again.'

To which he responded

'time to fuck off and stop making a cunt out of yourself.

I laughed then and laugh now at the thought of it. It is such good advice it remains in my mind four decades on

criteria for membership of the DLa [Deluded Club- ...

2012-08-09T11:09:15.146+01:00

criteria for membership of the DLa [Deluded Club- areseholes].

be totally blnd to all reason...or totally subjective. If you are both you get preium membership.

NEVER admit there are young people in [nationalist areas especially] our community who are irresponsible or a burden/blight on the face of society.

No-one in 'our' community is capable of even thinking of fraudulent nor criminal behaviour. Ths is a slur.

Elderly ex prisoners who should be enjoying the winter of their lives but instead crave attention by parading with paramilitaries and basking in the media attention it draws can NEVER be accused of bringing any trouble upon themselves. Instant dismissal from deluded club on failing to comply with this one.

'Working' class corruption is non existant and where proven will be refuted bluntly. There is no role for the 'people' to play in cleaning up the country or eradicatng the 'culture' of greed and fraud that has it where it is.

Finally, we are all peaceful people in the delusional club, BUT we will support the dissident prisoners rights at all times because the brits are cunts.

If you can adhere to these rules you can join the subjective delusional club and bellyache endlessly at how the rich and the brits have preevented us 'the people' from making Ireland a wonderland. On admission to the club you will recieve a dole card/DLA allowance a free car and the ability to NEVER be wrong...you will be a lifelong victim.

1 2 3 click click yer back in the room FUKN WANKER....get a life and fuck off!!! lmao.

John all i can say is GOD BLESS THE POPE it seems ...

2012-08-09T02:02:22.219+01:00

John
all i can say is GOD BLESS THE POPE it seems you broke the seal on 'no comment' here.

Just as i was giving up on Celtic fc and free speech...you breeched the wall of the 'Belfast vision'. Up the culchies!..oh aye and up the DLA

SS-MH 'JJMcGirr I saw you are in the house ag...

2012-08-08T21:23:33.063+01:00

SS-MH

'JJMcGirr I saw you are in the house again but i am not buying into your antics!'

Had you been a little more astute you would have noticed that I never attempted to engage with you, but merely showed, (for all who cared to read it), that you are condemned as an anti-Semite by the ADL.

Do I expect this to bother you? No. You are probably proud to be so-labelled. I expect you deny the 'holocaust' too. You remind me very much of a certain Bishop Williamson.

Heil Hedgehog!

It seems to me that this issue has been well and t...

2012-08-08T19:37:30.075+01:00

It seems to me that this issue has been well and truly settled. Not much more to be said.

Mackers i recon the lot of us know the score. Piss...

2012-08-08T19:33:18.154+01:00

Mackers
i recon the lot of us know the score. Piss taking aside. People are very well off here. Look to the USA or Philippines. We have a very cozy safety net. If the war s over then it's over. Excentuate the positive. Negativity and blaming the world whilst we live in 3 bed houses, drive free cars and eat for free, [nomatter how desperately we seek 'work'] is 'cool' here. ut PLEASE don't tell me we are all 'victims'. BE HAPPY, it could be worse..or even worser.

Marty

yer a super guy. I'm sniffin perhaps that wee yoke of yours is a DLA waggon. If so congrats to your loyalty to the GB motor industry. Like the contra affair, the brits redirected fenian benefits to the uk car industry via a wee book.

Humour works Larry, but only when it it is good

2012-08-08T19:21:16.699+01:00

Humour works Larry, but only when it it is good

Born Again Larry, Shame on you, you have collecte...

2012-08-08T19:13:48.530+01:00

Born Again Larry,

Shame on you, you have collected the dole and worse you stated that if your escape plan fails you have the alternative to collect the dole as you already know even with a wee bit a paper stating you went to school chances are you will join the long lines of people waiting for a few quid to get by.
If you do end up on the dole will, you be man enough to retract your words if you are unfortunate enough to end up drawing the dole to feed your family in the future or will your new found pride let them suffer?
If a wealthy person decides they do not want to work, does that make them lazy and an unproductive member of society? People who do work if they manage to do little all day are they not stealing from their employers? It would be worth arguing the social dynamics of society but like most of what you post it is just to spout rather than constructively take a position on any issue.
The extreme right has been yapping those lines for years yet they have failed to provide any alternative much the same as the left.
It baffles my mind that your failed career as a revolutionary has forced you to become a want to be right wing nut job.

I am away to stakeout my spot on the street and slag all the born again Larry’s that laugh at me in my drunken state.

mackers 'They seek work' ...how can they...

2012-08-08T19:11:57.497+01:00

mackers

'They seek work'

...how can they be seeking it when they take time off to sign on? A trade not learned at the 'WOLF' but at the skullery table. If ye want a revolution, stop the benefits!. Are ye listnin Eirigi?

All i'm saying is if we want a better society, before slaying the dragon, look in the mirror. Why not get a posse organised up to Stormont and insist on granny getting her winter heating. Or is it already sorted?

There are worse places to be living where much more yapping would be merrited.

Once Tain Bo, Wee Marty and the likes of ms. Price convince me the 'PEARSE BLOOD' route is feasible rather than worthy, then i'll get down on my hands and knees over broken glass after spit polishing me boots like Martin Meehan.

Well I must say Anthony you sure have some colourf...

2012-08-08T18:36:50.888+01:00

Well I must say Anthony you sure have some colourful characters on TPQ Jihad John on and religion and Lofty Larry on social issues...Larry a cara like the post office Henry Ford is brown bread a cara ...

Larry ‘But sure as long as society can be squeeze...

2012-08-08T18:14:13.591+01:00

Larry

‘But sure as long as society can be squeezed dry from the top and the bottom’

Who really believes that doing the double is screwing society on a par with what is happening at the top? The double pales into insignificance compared to what goes on elsewhere. Coming from a working class background and having seen people do the double, I don’t recognise in many of them the type of figure you have created. People on the dole don’t seem happy to me. They seek work, spend endless hours applying for it, get constant refusals, are bored out of their wits. The right wing ideological slant that they are all work shy scroungers simply doesn’t wash. It is like the ‘lazy nigger’ put down that so many black people were subject to. They too were scrounging, would rather rob than work ...

Society is being screwed into the ground more by rich people than it is by poor. That is not to argue for one minute that there are no rogues amongst the poorest. We need only look at the anti social behaviour that goes on. But to become fixated with people doing the double and using all sorts of names to put them down, seems to me to be ultimately self defeating. Nobody seems to be getting the point you are trying to make. You should never caricature your own cause if you want it to be taken seriously. You only end up doing your adversaries’ work for them.

I see very few Connolly quotes getting bleated out here. If I am not mistaken you are the only one to have mentioned him. You need to face the critique head on rather than head off into chicanes.

I don't think i'm any more anesthetised to...

2012-08-08T17:40:21.952+01:00

I don't think i'm any more anesthetised to political stagnation here than the rest of the bloggers nor indeed people in society generally. But ancient political quotes and same old same old no longer cuts the mustard. It will not inspire a new generation to the grave and jail if that's what the 'last of the mohikans' are dreaming of. Yes the brits will screw up and are screwing up. It's what they do. People here no longer care. They are on a drip feed of welfare and minimum wages. AND THEY ARE HAPPY. Tain Bo, genuine alternative PLEASE.? Not historical or emotional gunk. I want deprived people to feel comfort and securty. I don't want old dears dying in front of a two bar electric fire wrapped in a blanket with 2 coats on coz they are afraid to turn the fre on. I will be one myself n a week or two. I dont think sticking them in a DLA motor and turning on the enging and heater is the answer. Funds can be more imaginatively distributed than that. What say yer? Only Henry Ford benefits from that plan.

Mackers there has to be a ballance in society that...

2012-08-08T17:14:36.121+01:00

Mackers
there has to be a ballance in society thats all im suggesting. 40% on the dole or 100% is grand if the Brits and Europe are happy to foot the bill. But to then go castigating the supplier of funds for our leisure is just bunkum old chap. Quoting Connolly or the odd dead mummy from the historical archives who has zero relevance to today is pointless and boring. No one is jumping up to die for that shite anymore. Look around you. 1850s and 1916 are long gone. Some people desperately need to convince themselves it is still relevant, but, who cares. Todays revolutionaries [joke] either get a meaningful political platform, address social problems in 2012 or at least apply on the welfare for a sense of humour.

Just my opinion.

Tain Bo it amuses me that for me to state that for...

2012-08-08T17:04:49.053+01:00

Tain Bo
it amuses me that for me to state that for some people, if not entire families in every town in the country, the social welfare is the career of choice infuriates you. People getting worked up on it is akin to a mass demo over some factory closure, the 'pencil' factory. But sure as long as society can be squeezed dry from the top and the bottom and everyone has plenty to bellyache about..happy days, utopia is already with us. People don't see the system as theirs. So, screw it into the ground then complain at lack of services, no free education etc. Highly hypocritical and equaly as amusing. But sure, why seriously look at the system or society when all we have to do is bleet whilst sitting on a loaf eatng another loaf. Belt out the odd Connolly quote and our concience and revolution are both satisfied and intact immediately.

THE WORLD is not enough for some people.

Larry, I think you need to sit up and take notice...

2012-08-08T16:41:27.030+01:00

Larry,

I think you need to sit up and take notice of where the type of argument you have made ultimately takes you. The ideas are ill thought out, a repetition of all the right wing attacks on the poor, and often made in provocative manner. If they provoked thinking I would grudgingly concede but they don't. There is nothing in them that has not been heard before. I think you are capable of much more than a right wing rant. If you are happy with right wing politics then at least make a robust argument for your position. You don't need me to tell you that you will not be prevented from doing so here.

Born Again Larry, I wonder if you ever collected ...

2012-08-08T15:44:50.428+01:00

Born Again Larry,

I wonder if you ever collected the dole and if so do you feel deserving as you lambast the same system.
Instead of being born again Larry the victim of social welfare you should offer some solutions perhaps open up work camps bring back slavery and on a good day maybe dispose of the elderly the weak and infirm just for good measure.
Extreme poverty and chronic unemployment are facts and the minority of recipients subsist on whatever the amount allocated is far removed from your utter nonsense that life on the dole is a party with drink and cars for all.

More lies much like the dissidents laying drunk in Derry you used to prove a point then changed it to the drunks laying in the streets. What is so wonderful about their lives that you oppose so bitterly in an envious manner? For the likes of you, it is simple to laugh at alcoholics as if you are beyond reproach when in reality all you do is mouth and repeat blaming society for your own personal failures.
Why attack a system that provides a meager amount of money that in turn feeds and shelters people and leave it to those employed to weed out those who abuse the system after all even the people doing the double are providing jobs for those employed to catch them.

Should I complain about foreigners coming to Ireland collecting the dole and taking jobs? The answer is NO fair play to anyone who does a bit better poverty and unemployment holds no politics.

Now, if you did collect the dole you should inform your gracious government that you wish to repay the pittance they granted you in your time of need I am sure a well to do moral braggart as yourself would sleep a lot better knowing you are squared away. Unlike those evil double doers with no ethics or morals hell bent on making born again Larry’s world unbearable.

martybhoy touche! ye got me. i'm all for endi...

2012-08-08T15:14:55.516+01:00

martybhoy

touche! ye got me. i'm all for ending dole fraud and unemployment careerists..ALSO i advocate 60% taxation for the wealthy and 75% for JOURNALISTS!!

Ryan, A brief glance would suggest the theory is highly fanciful. Divesting itself of religion is good for any society. But it should not be banned. Bram Stoker’s Dracula or the bible, every country has its fiction and the myth of the undead.