Comments on The Pensive Quill: Brownie in the Big Apple

Marty, If I recall the Stakeknife book claims Sca...

2010-12-01T10:41:18.697Z

Marty,

If I recall the Stakeknife book claims Scap covered for him and got him off the hook.

MartyDownUnder, A person who was be...

2010-11-29T17:42:02.667Z

MartyDownUnder,
A person who was believed to be passing on information was allegedly being questioned in her home.
The persons leading the questioning was Scappaticci and his sidekick John Joe Magee, both later unearthed as top agents.
Apparently when they were debugging the suspect their equipment went loco even though there was no bugs on him. Now we know why, the other two must have been wired to the hilt.

Nuala, I feel sorry for his family but it is the ...

2010-11-28T20:48:33.080Z

Nuala,

I feel sorry for his family but it is the legacy he left to them. They are in an awful position.

‘Many in the IRA knew he was an agent, yet he was permitted to be buried amongst IRA dead, what an absolute insult.’

If true that they knew a greater insult perhaps is the fact that volunteers were exposed to him. How many were caught because of that?

I remember the Tirghra event in Dublin a few years back. Found that aspect of it embarrassing. But the whole event reminded me of the Last Supper where the Judas kiss was being administered to the IRA.

MartyDownUnder,

‘They were all in my friends house one time and she says that in
hindsight, she should have phoned the cops and said, 'I have a house
full of informers but only one is currently tied up”.’

Priceless

Nuala hon there could be 3 of them Gerry,s that i...

2010-11-24T11:54:35.639Z

Nuala hon there could be 3 of them Gerry,s that is the divine trinity the father,the son, and the one who ghosts people!and as for Marty down under who,s to say he,s not my doppelganger,Mickeyboy, Robert watch out St Mary Hedgehog pucker up girl ya ,ve been pulled!

No Fionnuala we're not the same, Marty over th...

2010-11-24T10:51:35.737Z

No Fionnuala we're not the same, Marty over there is funnier than me! More jokes please Marty!
Mind you Marty you're not as big a gag as MichaelHenry...

Is MartyDownUnder any relation to Marty up here? I...

2010-11-23T23:07:50.121Z

Is MartyDownUnder any relation to Marty up here? I agree with michaelhenry, surely there cannot be two of them. Whatever next, two Gerry's. Only there were two Gerry's the one in the black beret and the one who said, 'definitely not me your honour I was never a member.'

He's got the dirt on others locked away in the...

2010-11-23T21:43:52.145Z

He's got the dirt on others locked away in the event of anything happening. Remember talking to a certain bearded figure in SF (not that one!) when the story first broke publicly and he was in a total state of denial or that was what he was trying to portray. I've been told several times that it was known he was a super tout for years.
And Marty who's to say that he isn't on a nice little payout from prm Inc or his brit employers in exchange for his silence

2010-11-23T21:13:38.941Z

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You can bet your ass on that Marty down under,Scap...

2010-11-23T20:35:22.101Z

You can bet your ass on that Marty down under,Scap held a winning hand,he,s untouchable,if he hadnt been publicy outed he to would probably be getting along service award from the prm

MartyDownUnder, It is a guessing ga...

2010-11-23T20:28:59.698Z

MartyDownUnder,
It is a guessing game all round. Apparently, people knew about the bold scap for years before he was officially named.
Sinn Fein went along with his lies and deceit, I think it was Kelly (apologies if it was not) who said 'this man claims he is innocent, nothing has been proven against him' (maybe it was Pilot)
Scap was a liar, a killer and a man who sold out his comrades for money.
Like Davidson he was positioned where he could cause maximum damage, he interviewed people before they were shot. Scap, John Joe and Davidson also set up a lot of innocent people to cover their own tracks.
Vile, vile individuals, yet Scap was able to sit in a solicitors office on the Falls Roda and plead his innocence.
They were all in my friends house one time and she says that in hindsight, she should have phoned the cops and said, 'I have a house full of informers but only one is currently tied up.'

As I said nothing surprises anymore. And they'...

2010-11-23T19:13:45.972Z

As I said nothing surprises anymore. And they're still bluffing people. I've often wondered why scap has gotten away with it. Has he the goods on other rats on board and all would come up if anything was to happen to him or his.

Think about it wasnt ruby Scaps brother in law the...

2010-11-23T16:20:30.432Z

Think about it wasnt ruby Scaps brother in law the brits had the prm sewn up for years,and the leadership knew it and still allowed volunteers to die needlessly ,

MartyDownUnder, I don't know why he was gettin...

2010-11-23T12:52:40.565Z

MartyDownUnder, I don't know why he was getting all these glowing attributes as Mackers rigtly said, a branch man outed him weeks after he died.
Ingram merely put flesh on the vague stories that had been circulated. I remember being told by a very influential republican, 'that they found it disgusting that I would believe a British Agent.' I replied, that I did not believe Ingram had anything to gain from outing Davidson, so why would he lie?'
To wreck the Peace Process' was his response.

Mackers, You are one hundred percent right....

2010-11-21T22:38:00.001Z

Mackers,
You are one hundred percent right. Albert say Ingram only named him a few years back, whereas the story circulated a few weeks after he died.

The words to that poem go something like "alo...

2010-11-21T21:26:01.505Z

The words to that poem go something like "alone as I lie here in dark prison cell, my heart is angry with pain hard to quell, for they murdered big Brendan and i knew him well"
Obviously not well enough!! Don't know who wrote it, but sounds like John Quinn. Or "to our big gentle comrade from over the bridge, he gave up his life so that you might live"
Very sad when you realize the truth. Used to be a mural dedicated too him in The Market as well. All dedicated to a brussel sprout

Nuala, I think he was named long before Ingram en...

2010-11-21T21:01:38.902Z

Nuala,

I think he was named long before Ingram entered the fray. I remember a report of it a long time before I heard of Ingram. Apparently a branch man told a journalist shortly after it that the loyalists were idiots for having killed a key agent.

Davidson was first named by Martin Ingram a former...

2010-11-21T20:09:31.625Z

Davidson was first named by Martin Ingram a former member and whistleblower in the FRU.
Since then, he has been named many many times and yes IRA security knew what he was when he got shot.

Being over in Australia for a few years now I didn...

2010-11-21T19:28:04.349Z

Being over in Australia for a few years now I didn't know that about Ruby, I always believed he was thought highly off in the republican movement. Had an old tape that was put out years back from the Short Strand, it had a powerful poem dedicated to him on it. Surely they didn't know at the time?
Nothing surprises me anymore about the prm and you're 100% right Fionnuala what are they doing honoring him by his presence in the republican plot.

Mackers, It is absolutely awful for friends and fa...

2010-11-21T17:45:31.600Z

Mackers,
It is absolutely awful for friends and families when something like that is unearthed. I think Ruby Davidson was particularly vile, I beleved it the second I heard it and was castigated for believing it. What I will never understand is why they allowed him into the Republican Plot, they actually refused to bury Pat Mc Geough there and eventually caved in through pressure.
Many in the IRA knew he was an agent, yet he was permitted to be buried amongst IRA dead, what an absolute insult.
An even bigger insult was the fact that some years later in Dublin, Sinn Fein and the IRA had a massive reception for the families of the dead.
In the Irish News the next morning a picture appeared of Adams presenting Davidson's brother with an accolade supposedly reserved as a mark of honour for IRA dead.

Nuala, I was a friend of Ruby. He wrote to me alm...

2010-11-21T17:27:51.843Z

Nuala,

I was a friend of Ruby. He wrote to me almost every day when he was on remand in the blocks and I was in the sentenced blocks. At first I did not believe the allegations as they seemed so poorly sourced. But as time went by it was people in the IRA who persuaded me that he was. And it was hard to disagree with what they presented. I see Alan Simpson the former CID big wig has named him in his book as an agent.

Mackers, In Ed's book the Dark had the...

2010-11-14T23:03:56.174Z

Mackers,
In Ed's book the Dark had them sussed. Their entire security team or rather 'the nutting squad' was rotten to the core.
Big Ruby lying in the republican plot, another named tout. I'm sure someone will contradict me if I am wrong but I believe JohnJoe Magee's name is on the Lower Falls roll of honour. Scum of the highest order allowed to avail of such accolades
Adams actually presented Davidson's brother with a plaque, knowing full well he was an agent.
Between that and all the thieving and empire building Brendan must have felt he was being nailed to that cross he had carried for so long.

Nuala, ‘He was apparently outed years before the ...

2010-11-14T22:17:55.021Z

Nuala,

‘He was apparently outed years before the story hit the press. Clearly he had made them an offer they could not refuse and they accepted it. His silence on other agents?’

Duice, some time before he died, told me they knew about him many years earlier.

Yeah hon him and John Joe both swore oaths but unf...

2010-11-10T20:55:17.500Z

Yeah hon him and John Joe both swore oaths but unfortunately it was to the brits, Scap was outed a few years before it all became public thats why he was retired ,he had/has to much dirt to spread ,thats why he is alive today,

Marty, do you think Scapaticci would have taken th...

2010-11-10T19:33:38.494Z

Marty, do you think Scapaticci would have taken the oath?
He was apparently outed years before the story hit the press.
Clearly he had made them an offer they could not refuse and they accepted it.
His silence on other agents?

Marty, I think Brian is right, the Godfather is a ...

2010-11-07T17:02:57.715Z

Marty, I think Brian is right, the Godfather is a much more fitting tribute. The cartoon and the thinking behind it is totally brilliant.