Comments on The Pensive Quill: Worrying Silence

Tain Bo once again im lost in your ramblin attempt...

2012-06-09T09:47:56.437+01:00

Tain Bo
once again im lost in your ramblin attempts to sound superior and smart...cant even be arsed reading it after first two lines. Common English if you please.

Larry, I believe you meant to say, “Hear” that Nu...

2012-06-08T20:11:18.271+01:00

Larry,

I believe you meant to say, “Hear” that Nuala but you are addressing the wrong person.
I believe this is what you are paranoid about now. It was a poor argument that you used on the other thread and now it seems to be disturbing you. I notice it is now poor Winos so you are lying to prop up your weak repeated insults.

“So you laugh at them and observe them laying in a drunken state in a very specific location and then add tout should I assume you might be subconsciously or subliminally stating you are on the payroll of the state as you are very specific about a place in Derry and the activity of alleged militant dissidents. How exactly do you know they are touts and members of any militant group unless you have specific information and where exactly would one ascertain this information?
That is a very strange reply to a simple question I cannot qualify that as an answer unless the “anyone” you know would care to collaborate your story and what is the need you have to include “others” I have made it clear that I am addressing you.”
Seems as if people can be “foolish” as you have no problem in pointing out you should actual read what you post.

BTW my comment about dissidents being found in wat...

2012-06-08T08:56:43.828+01:00

BTW my comment about dissidents being found in waterloo place in derry was a joke. It's where wino's are to be seen layin on the street every day. Those who suggested on here i was divulging info 'dangerous' for republicans just showed their own total stupidity. You here that Fiaonnuala...?? you are no doubt head of the 'teligence' unit..Get the fuck outa Belfast..just for one day..'wee love'.

Mackers I agree with you about internment..it is W...

2012-06-08T08:52:31.891+01:00

Mackers
I agree with you about internment..it is WRONG. My slant on this issue and my attitude results from the mind numbing refusal by some people to see any fault or personal blame in Marian's actions and attitude. I'm not playing stupid for assholes. If they say YES she was supporting dissident threats and actions and that got here interned i would be more outspoken in her defence. When eejits blankly and blindly state she did 'nothing'??.. well that just puts me in the...'i'm switching off' mode immediately...fukn gobshites they are.

Larry, 'I'm not sure how those things wor...

2012-06-08T08:20:55.629+01:00

Larry,

'I'm not sure how those things work but i assume that before release was granted undertakings would be agreed to. If these are flouted or broken then the brits may suggest all deals are off.'

From a perspective of citizens' rights against arbitrary state power this argument has little merit.

'Advocating violence isn't the answer.'

Absolutely. But denying rights fuels the discourse of those who advocate violence. Geraldine Finucane made this point very well in the US a few months back.

'I think it's a case of defending Marian's right to engage or support those engaged in violence.'

I for one do not come at it from this perspective. My support for Marian's release has nothing to do with her outlook. I don't believe she or anyone else should be interned.

'But her own actions have her where she is.'

But this is the point. Her own actions as you term them have her on bail not in jail. She is in jail because of a politician not a judge.

'She gave the Brits ample excuse.'

If it was a game of chess we might argue 'wrong move'. But the key point here is that the Brits wanted an excuse not a reason.

itsjustmacker, I think we are what we are. I don&...

2012-06-05T23:05:36.249+01:00

itsjustmacker,
I think we are what we are.
I don't think Republicanism or Republicans can be re-moulded or fashioned to sit nicely within the context of the status-quo.
The end goal was reframed and modified so often that sometimes it is difficult to remember what it was initially.
Of course you are right, people are full of distrust, our communities are rife with hoods and drugs, all amounting to a very depressing picture.
Can we win? I don't know! I'm not even sure what winning means anymore. But I think if we just let it all go, let go of all those hopes and aspirations then we have lost.

SMH, It is great to share with people like yourse...

2012-06-05T22:28:34.890+01:00

SMH,
It is great to share with people like yourself, thank you.

@ Fionnuala great read & share. thanks.

2012-06-05T02:39:07.100+01:00

@ Fionnuala great read & share. thanks.

marty working my way round to that stage.

2012-06-04T20:51:29.165+01:00

marty
working my way round to that stage.

Could be worse Alec,he could be HANG-EM-HIGH Larry...

2012-06-04T16:07:59.546+01:00

Could be worse Alec,he could be HANG-EM-HIGH Larry!

Thankfully Larry is not a member of the judiciary....

2012-06-04T13:32:14.319+01:00

Thankfully Larry is not a member of the judiciary. He would have a ball as a Diplock judge sending people to jail with a tap of his judicial hammer. Round Em Up Larry!

Foinuala Republican politically correct 'racis...

2012-06-04T10:08:47.886+01:00

Foinuala
Republican politically correct 'racists'. How 'Irish' that seems to be...yep..round em up sling em in...rawhide..yeeha!!

Dixie, just watched it. It was a poor performance...

2012-06-03T11:15:40.331+01:00

Dixie,

just watched it. It was a poor performance. I don't think he prepared for Mike Nesbitt and was reduced to routinised answers. Declan often seems to make his case more complicated than it needs to be and because of overegging the pudding with technical dry language he loses the point. I am surprised at his delivery because he is very clever but seems to alienate his audience. This was my experience of him during the policing debates he did.

I think one of the difficulties for him in arguing about the past is that SF has so lost the interpretation of the past, that it cannot argue about moving on from it convincingly.

Alec 'Round Em Up Larry. Great nickname,lol&#...

2012-06-03T10:23:25.333+01:00

Alec

'Round Em Up Larry. Great nickname,lol'.

don't forget to sing it with ghusto and add a rousing RWAHIDE!! ...for effect.....rawhide!

Alfie I understand your frustration. Sad to say Re...

2012-06-03T10:15:58.330+01:00

Alfie
I understand your frustration. Sad to say Republicanism has no meaning or place in Ireland in 2012. It has been sold to the lowest bidder. Thankfully i have better things to do than flog a horse that has been dead for almost two decades and isn't going to be reserected. Some people seem to have no other life vision than the past. I can't help that. People like that would be pittied if their only objective now wasn't a vain pathetic attempt to reignite misery and violence that has no chance of success. This reality is known to them...but they don't care. Maybe because they are mostly oul-dolls who wont be pulling a trigger anytime soon. PATHETIC creatures in my estimation.

Marty, 'anyone can call themselves republic...

2012-06-03T08:37:52.076+01:00

Marty,

'anyone can call themselves
republican and quite a few do.'

I guess it shows not the republican success but the project's strategic success in wrapping the republican mantle around a non republican substance. It definitely does not offer what it says on the tin.

I guess a useful way to evaluate them is by examining what they said about others who did what they are doing now.

Fionnuala. Maybe you are right, But; Our problem ...

2012-06-03T03:01:12.641+01:00

Fionnuala.

Maybe you are right, But;
Our problem on any blog is, "WHO ARE WE BLOGGING WITH", Do we actually "know" the person we are commenting on, replying to?. What is in a name?
I can tell you this, My grandfather always taught us; "My brothers and sisters", YOU KNOW NOTHING, YOU HEAR NOTHING, YOU SEE NOTHING", I have been like that since he told us, in 1958 in Ardoyne, Ireland will never change, its in our blood, the fight will always go on,
The problem is, WILL WE EVER WIN?.
To many touts, To many drug Barons, But most importantly, TO MANY F**KING HOODS. they need sorted. This is 2012, GFA was on my birthday 28th of July, I did not agree with it, What makes me sick is, Marians SO CALLED COMRADE ,in the bombings in london, SIR Gerry Kelly, He has the F**king cheek to walk and drive throughout IRELAND , Yet never spoke out about his former comrade in arms being interned through the back door, to me that is a low life, Our history will never change, Until the British Government decides they cant take anymore, Europe is in crisis, the whole world is in turmoil , British forces are stretched to the limits, they are selling of there Aircraft carriers, there Jump Jets, now they don't even have an Aircraft carrier, they are in SH*t Street, TIME TO STRIKE BACK AT THERE FINACIAL ESTABLISHMENTS. The World Banks are creaming BILLIONS and putting it in of shore accounts. In the old days, Marion and the rest of republican prisoners interned would have been broken out, saying that, I must confess, I am very old, but I am far from passed it.

Larry, I hate to say this, but it is sad to see a...

2012-06-02T23:40:14.795+01:00

Larry,

I hate to say this, but it is sad to see a former republican prisoner sink so low as to make such deranged reactionary remarks.

Larry, I wonder how many so called 'dissident...

2012-06-02T11:29:41.498+01:00

Larry,
I wonder how many so called 'dissidents' you would actually relay your jail theory to in person?
Your a wind-up merchant, simple as!
Sadly though you are a wind-up merchant who harbours very dangerous views in relation to republicans and republican prisoners.

Larry, We all know what your boots are filled wit...

2012-06-01T22:51:03.771+01:00

Larry,
We all know what your boots are filled with and it's not grit.
Could not imagine the catalogue bride doing your dishes so it must be you, good enough for you Larry.

Hearts and Minds last night.... Declan Kearney is...

2012-06-01T20:11:22.822+01:00

Hearts and Minds last night....

Declan Kearney is rambling as only he can ramble, when Mike Nesbitt - brother of Rab C - steps into his path and hits him with a gut buster. Then stands back.

His question; 'Persuade me of the merits of a United Ireland'.

Kearney catches his breath and instead of doing what Republicans are meant to do - persuade about the merits of a United Ireland - the lesser Shinner goes off again into the 'New phase of the Peace Process. and other prerecorded messages from Adams."

Twice Nesbitt came with the question and each time he sat back and smirked as Kearney couldn't do it.

What was it Bobby said about "systemised,institutionalised,decent law-abiding robots."

Kearney's performance was indeed 'Robotic'.

john paul anyone not in SF lol

2012-06-01T19:57:18.402+01:00

john paul
anyone not in SF lol

Round Em Up Larry. Great nickname,lol.

2012-06-01T19:26:33.457+01:00

Round Em Up Larry. Great nickname,lol.

Actually come to the conclusion all dissidents shu...

2012-06-01T14:54:15.478+01:00

Actually come to the conclusion all dissidents shud be slung in jail. Round em up and sling em in. And all oul battle-axes with them.

Our Nuala will do what she believes to be right an...

2012-06-01T13:45:48.153+01:00

Our Nuala will do what she believes to be right and just ,she has true grit, like Marian will not bend the knee even when those who would have called themselves comrade have settled for the crumbs the brits handed out.proud to be a friend to such women, (even if she is a vegan)