Comments on The Pensive Quill: Orange Dilemma is Simple

Ardoyne Shakespeare- Hows this for another crappy...

2013-08-13T12:23:28.252+01:00

Ardoyne Shakespeare-

Hows this for another crappy post-

" goes against the wishes of the vast majority of relatives "

Catch yourself on-I did not see the RNU holding a march for the Tyrone Volunteers-they are to yellow-the familys of the west Tyrone brigade fallen read a few verses about their Volunteer and Gerry Kelly presented the familys of Vol Seamus Harvey and Vol Gerard McGlynn with a celtic cross at last sundays march in Castlederg-people look at the facts-not at your ramblings-

Another good article on TPQ chara. As for MH and h...

2013-08-13T09:42:25.149+01:00

Another good article on TPQ chara. As for MH and his crappy posts etc. His Party commemorating Tyrone Volunteers goes against the wishes of the vast majority of relatives who do not want the Stormont Party!

As for the situation concerning GARC and CARA. CARA are pretty limited in who they actually represent as S/F have ensured that it controls it's policy. Whereas, GARC speak for the majority of local residents and are free from political agendas!

GARC is only interested in one-issue, unwelcome sectarian marches through our community and are not interested in elections etc.

Mh, it's the way these 'Republican' ba...

2013-08-13T09:13:29.347+01:00

Mh, it's the way these 'Republican' bands are dressing and behaving which I'm pointing out is apeing the people we opposed for being loud and aggressive towards us over centuries, it matters not a jot where they exhibit this behavior, just act within our own cultural boundaries and leave the neanderthal club waving to the cave men.
Like you I was in Castlederg on Sunday, though I went to the site of the explosion, I met over a dozen RUC armored jeeps, per capita there are four times as many peelers here than in the free-state, all happy that the overtime they'll get for this summer will get them another car and holiday,I'd say, if Republican's had a walk to commemorate the deaths of comrades followed by a wee session in the Parochial Hall, like Larryo I'm surrounded by them and it's great the looks on their gobs when you walk past with your caman but dressing up like a tin soldier and acting like your enemy is not the best way to annoy them.

Michaelhenry 'Peter the Punt is spent Currenc...

2013-08-13T08:54:32.225+01:00

Michaelhenry

'Peter the Punt is spent Currency-bring on the next one-it won't last long either'.

I wouldn't put Peter down so easily. After his and Adams respective problems I certainly have higher regard for Peter. Iris let him down but lets be honest, was I a decade or several younger I'd love to have her phone number. Good for her! Adams on the other hand is better not thought about.

If Stormont (or the twits in it) can take a stand once and for all on the open festering sore of parades here the end-game might be finally in the bag for norn-iron. The Orange Order could very well be consigned to a 'beach near you' in the future.

That may not please the antagonists, but you MH will have the satisfaction of knowing that SF and yourself in harmony with the DUP saved Ulster from itself.

Robert Protestants need to come to terms with the...

2013-08-13T08:42:26.519+01:00

Robert

Protestants need to come to terms with the reality that they are not and never were the only people on the planet. Ulster Protestants are 2% of the UK electorate and the Orange Order is a minority within a minority on this island causing all this endless trouble.

It's not that the Orange Order cannot modify its behaviour. They march here in Donegal and by all accounts have a fantastic event here annually. I do believe Protestants are a majority in Letterkenny here and there is never an issue. But then the Orange Order insist on marching past 'fenian' areas in Belfast as some sort of birth-right.

No-one is under any obligation to come to terms with that fascism. Perhaps the hundreds of imminent convictions and ruined futures stacking up for loyalist and Orange rioters will soften the attitude. It worked with SF eventually.

After all Robert, it's all about the money!

Larry, It is a failure to come to terms with Prot...

2013-08-12T23:38:31.368+01:00

Larry,

It is a failure to come to terms with Protestants in general and the Orange Order in particular that makes 'controversy' such a moveable feast.

Mackers I honestly find it numbing that the riff ...

2013-08-12T22:59:07.971+01:00

Mackers

I honestly find it numbing that the riff raff are being molly-coddled and facilitated by the authorities and political system.

Middle class RCs and Prods within norn-iron would surely weather any storm from these Neanderthals if the system actually decided enough was enough. Are the security forces that badly in need of overtime and is the UK government that blind to things here?

SF are part of the system now, the lack of decisiveness on these endless parades seems to indicate a determination NOT to achieve a permanent end to trouble here. Too much money in it?

GOBSMACKED at the deliberate stupidity of it all.

Ronan- What type of gun are you using-one sentenc...

2013-08-12T22:24:22.942+01:00

Ronan-

What type of gun are you using-one sentence then you have to re-load-

Larry-

Peter the Punt is spent Currency-bring on the next one-it won't last long either-

Menace-

We are not apeing the apes of the orange order-we don't march in their areas- nor would we want to-

Larry, what people don't seem to understand i...

2013-08-12T21:56:04.705+01:00

Larry,

what people don't seem to understand is that being able to say 'fuck the pope' is a very important part of Orange culture. So many people gave up their lives storming German lines just to be able to scream 'fuck the pope' at the uncomprehending lines of Hans, Fritz and Gunther. So at least show some repect for those pope-fuckers

Menace I tend to agree with you. SF just can'...

2013-08-12T21:45:11.205+01:00

Menace

I tend to agree with you.
SF just can't properly move on.

If they did the Orange Order might be defunct.

Tho' it seems the OO are point blank refusing to halt controversial marches. All others can be halted for 6 months but NEVER the controversial ones. They are the only ones that matter!!

michaelhenry, do you not think it's a little q...

2013-08-12T20:43:54.482+01:00

michaelhenry, do you not think it's a little queer, Irish people acting and apeing the antics of the Orangies they say they are opposed to.
Republican bands beating drums, dressing in uniforms and causing the prods in a town to feel discomfited is just how it has long been done by the Unionists to us, why not do our own thing, celebrate our own culture and leave the hateful antics to the hateful gits who have been at it for centuries.

MH Peter the Punt will be fit to be tied after st...

2013-08-12T20:01:06.771+01:00

MH

Peter the Punt will be fit to be tied after standing with Marty and that other 'Chief' cuntstabubble at Stormont. I mean, how could SF retreat back to such traitorous criminality?

Promoting yourselves on the backs of other republi...

2013-08-12T20:00:12.250+01:00

Promoting yourselves on the backs of other republicans, a top down strategy.

Sinn Fein, in the habit of self promotion on the b...

2013-08-12T19:57:49.277+01:00

Sinn Fein, in the habit of self promotion on the backs of other republicans, from the horses mouth.

Wouldn't be the first time Michael that your l...

2013-08-12T19:56:12.534+01:00

Wouldn't be the first time Michael that your lot promoted yourself on the backs of other republicans, you have form.

Little [tales ] John- Whatever myths you peddle S...

2013-08-12T18:58:25.372+01:00

Little [tales ] John-

Whatever myths you peddle Sinn Fein is the winner of this years parades battle-most people you talk to think that Fridays night anti-interment march was a Sinn Fein one-and I am not going to tell them any different-the Parade in Castlederg yesterday was a huge event for Tyrone Republicans-and well done to all who organised it and took part-[I was at it also]-

There is more of a chance of a CARC RNU member being elected next year as a UKIP dip-and that chance by the way is a big fat zero-

A good read. The Orange Order appears to becoming ...

2013-08-12T09:38:47.888+01:00

A good read. The Orange Order appears to becoming the liability to political progress for unionism that the IRA became for SF. Though why SF hang on to parades like that in Tyrone yesterday has more to do with a rear-guard action against the new emergent nationalist option John talks of than any genuine republican sentiment.

Surely after all the 'new departures' SF has embarked upon they have long since passed the point where republican rhetoric and symbolism are surplus to its requirements? Only fear of a new party emerging can explain their embarrassing 'multi-personality disorder' in 2013. Cringe-worthy.

As for UKIP; I do believe the neutering of the Orange Order and the arrival of UKIP would secure norn-iron with middle class votes across the divide. The RUC will await the emergent republican counter as a hungry chick awaits the arrival of its next meal!