Comments on The Pensive Quill: Gerry McGeough Welcome Home Function

Itsjustmackers a cara Pete the punt has jointly wi...

2013-02-16T12:09:35.561Z

Itsjustmackers a cara Pete the punt has jointly with Nesbitt no balls put forward the son of a whacked ex b special.. stiff little fingers like that.

Stephen: "And the way things are going there...

2013-02-16T02:09:23.679Z

Stephen:

"And the way things are going there will be an even skinnier line between the Shinners and the DUP--which will eventually swallow up Nesbitts crowd--unless a viable alternative can be found."

Lagan Valley MLA Basil McCrea has said it is likely that he and John McCallister will set up a new party to challenge the DUP and the UUP..

were does that leave the Unionist Party Now?, seems splits are splits to me. Gerry will never admit anything, The Brits trained him to deny everything, But, There are those of us who no the truth. My opinion is, That Unionist are in turmoil at the moment, Robinson putting forward an ex B-Special who was murdered , Distributing Leaflets, Purporting that they are Naomi Longs, FOR WHAT?, there is no difference on either side, Its Dog eat Dog. Don't think for one minute that the British cares about Protestants or Catholics, They are using Unionists MP's for Votes, and that is the bottom line, I only wish you could see that a cara, we are all being used by, SF, and, DUP, I think Robinson will soon Resign, an alternative is required to unite the working class, we could elect, "Stiff Little Fingers"?

My old Irish teacher in Barrack st whose nickname ...

2013-02-15T22:33:01.158Z

My old Irish teacher in Barrack st whose nickname was snipe used to say when wacking the bejasus outa us "c,mon ye boy theres no fairies at the bottom of my garden" bet if he looked out his window now he,d be in for a hell of a shock ..

Stephen, Declan Kearney ... and his party are le...

2013-02-15T21:31:50.515Z

Stephen,

Declan Kearney ... and his party are leading republicans up the proverbial garden path.

I don’t think republicans are being led up the garden path – just Shinners!

LOL Stephen and I dont mean loyal orange lodge, th...

2013-01-31T17:37:06.060Z

LOL Stephen and I dont mean loyal orange lodge, the aim is to make the likes of Adams and Frazier irrelevant,nothing more than the butt of our jokes, come to think about it that has already started, fancy a pint a cara ..

Marty..the truth is that there is a very skinny li...

2013-01-31T16:32:07.645Z

Marty..the truth is that there is a very skinny line between both sides of the community here. What makes the difference are those who have most to gain by keeping us apart and in protecting their own little empires and egos. The Shinners have become very adept at what Unionists have done for a hundred years. And the way things are going there will be an even skinnier line between the Shinners and the DUP--which will eventually swallow up Nesbitts crowd--unless a viable alternative can be found. But I would say there is more chance of Gerry admitting membership or of Willie Frazer telling us he is really Liam O'Freacher.

michaelhenry: Believe it or not, after Dolours wa...

2013-01-31T14:18:52.967Z

michaelhenry:

Believe it or not, after Dolours was buried, the news letter Printed 5 photos of the cortege, a lot more than all other papers, some didn't even print any, as it was there duty to do so, especially Republican ones.

Michaelhenry, The Irish News printed those picture...

2013-01-31T13:51:27.231Z

Michaelhenry,
The Irish News printed those pictures yesterday on its front page but the newsletter failed in its civic duty and just showed one illegal protester in the middle pages

I seriously doubt Stephen has any control over what goes in or out of the Newsletter. If you feel so angry about it, may I suggest you contact the editor of the Newsletter and ask him why he (not Stephen) printed one grainy photo..?

Stephen a cara it may become a bit boring but your...

2013-01-31T13:15:07.649Z

Stephen a cara it may become a bit boring but your last post is spot on ,good people from both communities have suffered from the weasel words of people who have proved themselves to be nothing but carpetbaggers,from never never never,on one side and we,re out for our republic !on the other, fucking lives wasted in gaol,the graveyards full, homes and lives wrecked for what,we can and better learn from this,and hopefully come out the other side united.good post Stephen keep them coming Robert and yourself may be a distance away but I believe we have that unites us than divides us.

Stephen Ferguson- The PSNI sent photos to all the...

2013-01-31T12:16:17.759Z

Stephen Ferguson-

The PSNI sent photos to all the media of those involed in the illegal protests over the union jack-the Irish News printed those pictures yesterday on its front page but the newsletter failed in its civic duty and just showed one illegal protester in the middle pages-and that person was hard to make out- do you wonder why the newsletter is trying to protect criminals for as long as they can-

Itsjustmacker.....no need to tell me about the dup...

2013-01-31T08:45:59.213Z

Itsjustmacker.....no need to tell me about the duplicity of Robinson and co..I have witnessed it from people like him from the eraly sixties. Big House Unionism has continually misrepresented and failed the protestant working class and yet continue to be voted in because the electorate feel they have no viable alternative. The one thing that protestant working class fears the most is change..so they would prefer to be represented by these weasels rather than take a chance. I have just heard Declan Kearney on Radio Ulster and he is a republican version of what I am talking about. He and his party are leading republicans up the proverbial garden path. No coincedence that both parties that Kearney and Robinson represent are carving it up between them up the hill in Leafy Land.

Stephen: Thanks for the apology, but it wasn'...

2013-01-30T23:29:54.261Z

Stephen:

Thanks for the apology, but it wasn't necessary, sometimes things are typed at the heat of the moment.

You seem to think I have tunnel vision, I for one, like others on TPQ know it was not all one sided during the conflict, A lot of innocent people were blown up, murdered, just because of their Religion,That was totally wrong and inexcusable. I think its best to see what is going to happen in the future, and, I don't have that long on this planet to foresee anything but corruption on top of corruption by leaders on both sides of the divide, gangsters/Racketeers/ Extortion, etc,etc ,the sad fact of life is, we have now got more ;"so called Peace walls" than we had before the gfa, and in my opinion this latest one about the Flag over the city hall was set up by first minister Robinson to try and regain his seat from Naomi Long, but the gangsters/drug barons stepped in to escalate it, Robinson is speaking with a forked tongue, he stated that, "Surely everyone has a right to protest", but no need for the violence, He didn't mean the legal protests on the crumlin rd Ardoyne, that's for sure and he could not give two hoots about the violence being caused, because he firmly believes he will win that seat back, AT ANY PRICE, even his own community being oppressed by it, well, lets hope that community in East Belfast remembers all this when the put pen to paper, because they are no different to you and I, working class, the ones who are always forgotten about once they cast the vote, no matter if its for DUP/SF etc we all end up a statistic who pays there wages/salaries and big fat expenses.

Stephen a cara when we leave aside the vitriol and...

2013-01-30T10:18:26.407Z

Stephen a cara when we leave aside the vitriol and whataboutery,we and I mean most of us are not to far apart,I do take your point and I,ll say my last on this, as someone who has known many who have given their lives for "the cause"and walked behind coffins now to many to number, the deaths of volunteers has always been tinged with if I may say a sense of pride that these people were in some sense a Samson who fought the Goliath,and as anyone who ever knew anything about the republican movement will say one of the first things one is told is that either death or imprisonment is likely.but although we all engaged in that destructive dance, the sense of humanity never left us or as best as possible, remember the Dark trying to save that young soldiers life,not for some publicity stunt but from compassion,so to the point a cara I knew Eileen well we were kids together I saw her develop into a lovely young woman, she was a happy young kid and lived for life, she was as innocent as a new born, her death was as needless as those who Adams let die on hungerstrike,and my disgust and anger with the perpetrator of Eileens murder is matched by my disgust and anger at Adams and his cronies... sin é

itsjustmackers...sorry you felt offended by an off...

2013-01-30T08:44:22.960Z

itsjustmackers...sorry you felt offended by an offhand remark..but apologies. In answer to your question..NO...I do not think it is right to fire 3 bullets into anyone's head. But neither do I think it is right to blow children up in prams---tie innocent civilians to steering wheels of lorrie in proxy bombs---burn to death members of a pedigree dog club out on a function---machine gun to death the congregation of a country church etc: etc: etc:...And what I also feel is wrong is that you can pontificate on what is right and wrong and that you reserve the right to be selective in your opinions.

Marty..I accept what you are saying and certainly ...

2013-01-30T08:40:14.800Z

Marty..I accept what you are saying and certainly believe you are genuine which makes me wonder why you would make an issue of one killing from 40 years ago when you openly admit that many republicans were involved in " horrendous " things. I'm not here for any argument Marty but to comment as I see it. Both of us could run out of paper when making a list of terrible killings--indeed could you name a " good " one--or indeed one that solved anything? Me neither.

Stephen: "did you ever work for Mickey Marle...

2013-01-29T17:45:48.842Z

Stephen:

"did you ever work for Mickey Marley?"

That does not worthy a Reply. But you will never change, you can't answer a simply question, so I will ask it again, " Do you think that 3 bullets in the back of the head of a child is ok?"

Stephen the know it all was a dig but not a blow...

2013-01-29T16:56:10.340Z

Stephen the know it all was a dig but not a blow meant to offend or hurt, we all know and admit that the republican movement has done horrendous things in what now seems the pursuit of nothing,and a cara they have or rather a clique led by the bearded one allowed six very brave men to die unnecessary and needless deaths on hunger strike,so a cara I am all to aware of the dirt that is on the hands of republicanism,however believe it or not the majority and I admit here not all but again the majority of republicans including my self would never have contemplated or indeed allowed the murder of anyone just because they didnt kick with the right foot,if they did as an Atheist I would have been whacked long ago by either side.I am in agreement with you in your comment re the valid reasons for paid perjurer cases to be scrapped,my point in that post and I do apologise here for not explaining myself better, my argument was not the actual decision because I believe other agencies have had a hand in that decision,but rather the cavalier attitude of Barrabhroy Mc Grory,s announcement compared the determination to pursue a ridiculous charge against Marian Price.supergrass trails are a failed substitute for proper investigative policing,but the fact that policing here is political and the fact that those charged with upholding the law break the law then there is no law ,the communities here will be held as pawns in various state agencies dirty games until the communities unite in defense of each other,is it a big ask that is to much I dont know but I hope not.a cara.

Marty--I am far from knowing it all--and am willin...

2013-01-29T15:23:27.292Z

Marty--I am far from knowing it all--and am willing to learn through debate. Do you think I dont know how corrupt the country was..one thing I am not is blind or deaf to all those misgivings. what I consistently say is that it wasnt and isnt all one sided. And you will find as time goes on that mainstream republicanism may not be as white as people believe. In the Martin O'Hagan case there is a valid reason for disallowing his evidence which will have implications on all paid perjurer or assisting offender cases. Mo Chara.

Stephen in such a corrupt and grubby state such as...

2013-01-29T13:51:49.324Z

Stephen in such a corrupt and grubby state such as norn iorn is, the term innocent until proven guilty is really a question of who it is aimed at the recent dropping of charges against the lvf members on Martin O Hagans murder and the care less attitude of the director of public prosecutions Barrabhroy McGrory,showed the true nature of this state,his vindictive pursuit of Marian Pice at the behest of the brits is a classic example of british justice norn iorn style, there has indeed been many loyalists through the prison mill here but like internment and the proscription of the uda most were put there for the optics,as for singling people out well that has happened here on TPQ many a time the bearded on is probably the most berated followed closely by the rat in the hat bangers two people who would probably be well briefed on collusion,as for education you Stephen well a cara I,m still trying to learn you however know it all,

itsjustmackers...if that's the case you sound ...

2013-01-29T13:42:27.189Z

itsjustmackers...if that's the case you sound like one of the hobby horse's on the merrygoround--did you ever work for Mickey Marley?

Stephen: Who started lifting people of the street...

2013-01-29T13:05:37.171Z

Stephen:

Who started lifting people of the streets for torture beyond any human beings dreams and murdered?, it was not Republicans. Do you think that 3 bullets in the back of the head of a child is ok?. I am of the firm opinion that you are on a merry go round, but the merry go round always goes in the direction you want it to, It seems to me that you are the bigot and no matter what anyone says, you just want to be right.

Marty..obviously the term innocent until proven gu...

2013-01-29T11:23:00.288Z

Marty..obviously the term innocent until proven guilty isnt in your repertoire..but you seem happy to single this one incident out when during the past conflict despite many denials from all republican groupings they were ALL involved in sectarian attacks and killings. The Loyalist groups werent involved in tit for tat shootings on their own. I know there has been condemnation on TPQ of republican violence--I am a follower of the site. I think it is wrong for you to single anyone or anything out. And you dont need to try and educate me on Dylan or on collusion either...which again wasnt confined to Loyalism..as we are increasingly seeing.

Stephen putting three bullets into the back of a t...

2013-01-29T10:51:07.100Z

Stephen putting three bullets into the back of a terrified innocent young girls with no involvement in any part of the "Troubles",by ,and you seem proud to use the term "loyalist"should make any decent person hang their head in shame,so much for Gusty,s "abject and true remorse" on your behalf,if you take the time to trawl through the history of TPQ you will find no small amount of condemnation of republican actions by republicans,most of whom are trying to make sense of our past ,debate,educate and learn in the hope that we can all find a better way of bringing about a just and socialist republic about without bloodshed,something I believe Gusty Spence realised was a genuine aspiration.there was a real element of socialism among the older generation of uvf personnel who had recall to the ODR riots of the 30,s that seems lacking in the younger generation, something we can clearly witness by their activities as" community workers" recently.Stephen go listen to Dylans Only A Pawn In Their Game in relation to "loyalists" acting as agents of the state...

Not a problem Anthony--I interpreted differently.....

2013-01-29T09:07:33.755Z

Not a problem Anthony--I interpreted differently..but we will agree to differ.

Stephen, If you are talking about his latest comm...

2013-01-29T09:03:48.364Z

Stephen,

If you are talking about his latest comment on thread. I have read it and don't regard it as a threat, more a wordplay around the use of the term threat.