Comments on The Pensive Quill: The State we are in

BoyneRover I don't struggle to accept anythin...

2013-02-12T01:00:06.219Z

BoyneRover
I don't struggle to accept anything. I accepted these things quite a while back. Provos who were the Provos ?
People now speak as if they were something we were all detached from. I can't keep commenting on Jennifer it is sounding repitive.

Fionnuala You are struggling to separate the Pro...

2013-02-11T23:06:11.231Z

Fionnuala
You are struggling to separate the Provo’s war from reality this is exactly what happens, much to your despair she gone over to the other side, hard as it might be for you, but that’s life she has accepted the British pound some people crave power and she among others cant resist it

BoyneRover, I asked Seamus whoever earlier to come...

2013-02-11T21:17:09.162Z

BoyneRover,
I asked Seamus whoever earlier to come and back up his claim that the SDLP have done more than Sinn Fein Concrete evidence was what i was looking which of course he will not produce!
Is Jennifer any different than the SDLP or any other British minister here probably not. But for reasons best known to myself and in relation to recent developments that involved JenniferMcCann I would cite her as a much more decent person than those who are scathing of her.Within sinn fein she is well in step with McGuinness but you cannot group people and label them as being carbon copies.
I would say in all probability you would not even know her.

Am I to take from your response that Jennifer is r...

2013-02-11T19:43:03.934Z

Am I to take from your response that Jennifer is really ok and would love to fight tooth and nail to get Marian and Martin freed from the British new form of internment, only that she is bound by the rules of the Stormont ??
She is as genuine as Martin McGuinness and we all know his views on anyone against the union with Britain

The negative "You, We , me may not agree wit...

2013-02-11T19:26:24.981Z

The negative "You, We , me may not agree with or share the politics of Marian Price" Party political speakers and political commentators may want to remind those listening that "you may not agree with or share our/ my politics" because they are totally Redundant and powerless to affect any change for Marian politically!! (so get off the constitutional party soapbox and hypocrisy) and tell it how it is.
The Assembly that has no power so none to share is because of the terms of devolution - reserved and excepted matters - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserved_and_excepted_matters#section_2
National security is solely the preserve of Westminster.
David "useless as a Dodo" Ford knows he has no power in this as confirmed in a reply to my letter where It was asked if he was subservient to the British Secretary of State in regards to Marians case and for him to clarify questions on legislation. It is different to the case of BL due to "national security" being cited. Ford re BL stalled,ignored medical reports and said he needed legal advice! (he is the minister for justice).
It is clear and SF and SDLP Know in Marians case they politically are powerless, a personal interest, campaigning is what some are doing in putting a great deal of time and effort into campaigning but lose the charade that its your politics, constitutional party, constitutional representatives are making the difference here because there is no constitutional factor within stormont that affects the case to free Marian Price.

BoyneRover No actually we did not as young people ...

2013-02-11T18:37:34.518Z

BoyneRover
No actually we did not as young people we were not terribly interested in political parties.
I know all about Sinn Fein as do other Republicans but it does detract from her being a genuine person and like or not her past cannot be wiped away.

Fionnuala "Jennifer was one of the best Repu...

2013-02-11T17:44:29.841Z

Fionnuala
"Jennifer was one of the best Republicans I ever knew and a very decent individual" . If she is what you say, then why isn't she shouting from the roof tops now after all was that not what she expected all the political parties in the North to do when she was fighting her war. “Sinn Fein will try to make political gain from this without any doubt but that does not make Jennifer an opportunist.” this doesn’t make sense to me , other than it’s a typical republican response, are you trying to tell us she can be a member of Sinn Fein but is free to help people who The Sinn Fein DFM called traitors, they being Dissidents Republicans. Jennifer and her comrades in Sinn Fein are doing exactly what previous parties that grew from armed conflict done to the next generation of republicans and that is “Fuck you jack I am alright”

Nula, sorry for the delay, I was away at work '...

2013-02-11T16:32:08.386Z

Nula, sorry for the delay, I was away at work 'til today.
The reason for mentioning Pat as a Republican is, as Mackers says, his committment to this issue; Marian McGlinchey is not from Derry but he, rather than many of her former colleagues, has driven this issue, to me Republicanism is about treating all equally, he has promoted the human rights breaches of Marian, Martin, Gerry and Brendan et. al for two years now.
Eamon too could sit in west Galway and concentrate on the needs of only the voters there, instead he has sought to raise the unfairness of the internment of Irish citizens, again, with the Brit government, with some success.
Emmet, most public servants I know start work at 4.30 and finish at 5pm, you have been on the phone about this matter to me on Saturday mornings as I try to go to work and later at night when I'm trying to sleep, this is the committment to Irish rights I have not come across from those the bearded bollocks speaks for, with one exception!

SeamusMc Can I apologise also for the multiple typ...

2013-02-11T16:07:46.896Z

SeamusMc
Can I apologise also for the multiple typos as I said last evening, I am posting from my phone which is anything but ideal.
Sinn Fein's Mla Jennifer Mc Cann was playing catch up to Derry based SDLP. You could be right on this but it would really help if you could eloraborate to the extent of offering clear evidence of this.
I have no time for Sinn Fein or Jennifer's politics but that does not take away from the fact that Jennifer was one of the best Republicans I ever knew and a very decent individual . Sinn Fein will try to make political gain from this without any doubt but that does not make jennifer an opportunist . I think if any Republican woman could stand on her merit pre her post Sinn Fein days it's Ms Mc Cann. That is not to say that Jennifer is less than genuine now as an individual, in fact I would say she would be a lot more sincere and trustworthy in this situation that many of those who are scathing of her.
Confused by my contradictory comments. I thought we went through this last night? Clearly not. What are they and maybe I provide even more clarity.
Also you missed the point in relation to the scoring!

AM - sorry about the multiple comments between thi...

2013-02-11T14:25:50.494Z

AM - sorry about the multiple comments between this computer nearly as old as me and my internet being as good as dung.

Fionnuala, since I didnt write the post that omitted Jennifer McCann I can't answer, and as 'everyone else dropping their guard' they never had it up in the first place, The simple fact that Marian's Sinn Fein MLA was playing catch up to a Derry based SDLP shows that Sinn Fein and MCCann had/have little or no genuine motive, other than being embarrased into action. Not exactly instilling pubic confidence in their ability, well that's unless you are Padraig Wilson.. You can read into that what you may.
Yes this is a political blog and I'm it sure has opinions from all quarters, and halfway through your posts I was confused at your contradictory comments, as for point scoring, who was point scoring, my posts as yours are open to challenge and scrutiny, would that not be the essence of debate?

Seamus

Dingo, reading your comment makes me think the St...

2013-02-11T08:03:29.082Z

Dingo,

reading your comment makes me think the Stormont charade could be properly described as a no power to share agreement.

Mmm bit late on this but... I agree with Nuala, na...

2013-02-11T00:25:07.842Z

Mmm bit late on this but...
I agree with Nuala, name all those stormont politicians of any persuasion speaking not about Marians internment, but please see it from a republican analysis, politicians altruistic - Accepted Pat Ramsey has been active with support from Emmet in this, SF are certainly playing cynical politics as usual. I have seen time and time again Pat call the human rights issues (of course there are. Recently ray mccartney/Jennifer mccann calling out David Ford to intervene. well :-
Pat, Emmet, and since Ray sits on the justice committee they all know David Ford cannot intervene - as confirmed 4th September which was forwarded to SDLP due to the 'licence being revoked on national security' From devolution in 1998 Justice powers on national security remained with Westminster, the life sentences 2001, policing and justice 2007 & amendments did not change that, national security remains with the British Secretary of State. Why have Pat as an MLA raised this as a 'nationalist' if not republican issue? Why has SF not pointed out this - Because they signed in 1998 this into power, gave agreement to it by taking and remaining to take seats in stormont, They sealed the deal that keeps Marian interned, involvement in Marians campaign has a pay off for them so don't deny it.
Marian would not be interned but reserved powers gave Westminster ultimate power
Politicians may have a remit but its a stormont remit,
I do think tho (Michael Henry excepted) there is consensus which Pauline has done a fine job of keeping many disparate groups together-I'm not rreligious but Monsignor Raymond Murray also commended for his effort,
But please call a spade a spade, The British interned Marian, legislation signed and un-amended keeps her interned-why the silence on that point - especially from people who call themselves nationalist or republican because their perspective is anything but republican.

Sounding like the Waltons.

2013-02-10T23:56:59.740Z

Sounding like the Waltons.

Mackers It has been a long night, a very good nig...

2013-02-10T23:54:31.692Z

Mackers
It has been a long night, a very good night to you .

He sure has a cara,

2013-02-10T23:51:25.275Z

He sure has a cara,

Mackers Goodnight to you .

2013-02-10T23:50:07.631Z

Mackers
Goodnight to you .

well, it's goodnight for me as I am exhausted....

2013-02-10T23:46:33.264Z

well, it's goodnight for me as I am exhausted. And I have just discovered a note from my son asking for a cuddle! He has his priorities right

Now i'm really lost Grannies with balls becomi...

2013-02-10T23:46:00.060Z

Now i'm really lost Grannies with balls becoming wheel barrows hurried together alliances and a chorus...it's time for my bed.

Pauline. Don't think you are. Anyway what happ...

2013-02-10T23:44:48.467Z

Pauline.
Don't think you are. Anyway what happened to Goodnight?

Sorry i'm lost a hurried together alliance????...

2013-02-10T23:39:36.168Z

Sorry i'm lost a hurried together alliance???? chorus???? now i'm really lost. An alliance of who? What chorus?

Anthony if your granny had balls she would have be...

2013-02-10T23:38:57.419Z

Anthony if your granny had balls she would have been a wheel barrow

Emment- Take my comments with a pinch of salt- i ...

2013-02-10T23:36:40.889Z

Emment-

Take my comments with a pinch of salt- i do hope that your good self
and Pauline write here more often-you are good people-

AM-

About your comments about my comments i have mostly got the Evidence-mostly-give me a day to check again-i am going to have to write down things that i had read-

Nuala, no clue what that means

2013-02-10T23:34:51.432Z

Nuala,

no clue what that means

Mackers If you were looking out not in you might f...

2013-02-10T23:26:08.576Z

Mackers
If you were looking out not in you might form a very different analysis.

Pauline, I am having a good evening George Clooney...

2013-02-10T23:22:37.689Z

Pauline,
I am having a good evening George Clooney on the awards.
I never said you called me a silly Billy, I merely pointed out I am not. What i said was neither baseless or an accusation you claim you meant one thing i on the other hand would equate it with something else.
Anyway considering we don't know either other or care less what the other thinks it is neither here or there.
But if you knew me you would also know that a hurried alliance or a put ogether chorus will not change how I think.
A good evening to you also.