Comments on The Pensive Quill: Free Ps and the Rise of Sinn Fein

Marty ‘Who cares Anthony you and I are beyond red...

2011-04-09T07:55:32.983+01:00

Marty

‘Who cares Anthony you and I are beyond redemption and doomed to hell until it freezes over, we have the consolation that we will beyond the clutches of god.’

I don’t much fancy that Christian god at all. A vengeful, vindictive, jealous and wrathful old despot. There have been more people killed in its name than in Hitler’s. Why would you and I honour it with our company for eternity?

Stick with the Flying Spaghetti Monster Marty; as I said to John McGirr not one has died in its name.

My da always used to mimic William Beattie in the early 70s. He said Beattie had a vocabulary of five words ‘bring back the B Specials.’

Spot on Helen I think your post is as near the kn...

2011-03-31T08:39:50.317+01:00

Spot on Helen I think your post is as near the knuckle as its possible to get,add Dodds, Poots,McCauslandand quite a few others who hold assembly positions,the fundamentalist wing of the dup seem to be as determined to have a protestant parliament for a protestant people,only difference these days is they are now using stealth tatics rather than the bull and thunder of the old dup,we have had another example of their bigotory and the useleness of psf and Adams in particular in his role of mp for west Belfast,one of the most serious economically disadvantaged areas in europe,the Anytout news revealed that over ten years or so the dept responsible for inward investment which Arlene Foster oversees invested close to £800 mill in east Belfast while the west recieved less than £20 mill.I agree these people cant be ignored they havent changed their political goal unlike psf.rather they have changed tatics, but still the bigots they have always been.

Fionnuala "What could they unleash, that has...

2011-03-30T22:27:47.349+01:00

Fionnuala
"What could they unleash, that has not been unleashed before? Their problems are the result of diehard fundamentalist attitudes and lack of tolerance".

Couldn't agree more. However, a strong indication of Dr. Coulter’s analysis was the McGeough case. Why do I connect this article with McGeough? In his article, Dr. Coulter states: Republicans and nationalists should not dismiss the tensions within the Free Presbyterian Church as yet another internal Protestant religious squabble. These same republicans would do well to see Free Presbyterianism as a vital pulse within political Unionism. Nationalists ignore developments in the Free P’s at their peril.”

One of the driving forces behind the McGeough arrest/guilty verdict was the DUP. Arlene Foster, Roger Burton and Maurice Morrow from the DUP. Cheerleaders for the former “B Special” UDR man Sammy Brush. In hindsight, Sinn Fein may have been on the same page as Dr. Coulter, prior to this article, and that possibly could have been one of the motivating factors in them doing “nothing” to help Gerry McGeough? Don’t stir the pot and piss-off the DUP and their supporters? However, in no way does that excuse Sinn Fein for their lack of integrity with regard to the McGeough case and other things republican. Just a thought.

Who cares Anthony you and I are beyond redemption ...

2011-03-30T12:31:45.109+01:00

Who cares Anthony you and I are beyond redemption and doomed to hell untill it freezes over,we have the cosulation that we will beyond the clutches of god,

Marty, the Free Ps are just gonna love you for le...

2011-03-30T09:30:46.131+01:00

Marty,

the Free Ps are just gonna love you for lewd jokes! Can't annoy the Puritans you know. Burn in hell if you do.

A priest and a nun are on a camel in the Sahara de...

2011-03-30T09:26:05.644+01:00

A priest and a nun are on a camel in the Sahara desert,the camel drops dead leaving them doomed:realising their fate the priest asks the nun to expose her boobs,she agrees providing he takes out his todger,they begin to fondle each other and the priest gets excited,"you know if I place this in the right place I can create life"said the priest "right" said the nun "stick it up the camel and lets get the f##k out of here"..A guy goes to a supermarket and notices an attractive womam waving at him,she says "hello" he,s taken aback because he cant place where he knows her from,so he says "do you know me?"to which she replies "I think your the father of one of my kids" now his mind travels back to the only time he was ever unfaithfull to his wife and says "are you the stripper from the bachelor party that I made love to on the pool table with all my mates watching while your whipped my butt with wet celery?" she looks into his eyes and says calmly"no I,m your sons teacher"..

Marty SF already the loser. Only the demented and ...

2011-03-29T16:46:06.110+01:00

Marty
SF already the loser. Only the demented and blind can equate a majority vote in a UK assembly as some kind of victory. How ironic they may be the largest grouping and committed to Stormont. As dustin the turkey said...where did it all go wrong. Pitty the dead. What a pantomime.

I have a long memory of William Beattie,from his t...

2011-03-29T10:04:37.421+01:00

I have a long memory of William Beattie,from his time campaining to stop Poleglass being built,but more personally when psf took seats in Lisburn council,in those days the meetings took place in Hillsborough and Beattie made sure that we were given a warm reception, things were so bad we used to wear bullet proof vests,now he has been of the radar for a few years,but if he is as John says one of the main movers and shakers of the dup and I wouldnt doubt John on that, then I,m afraid that whith people like Beattie and Mc Crea the notion that this place is shrugging of its secterian past is a myth, these leporads dont change their spots.and I,m afraid psf is now entangled in a dance to death,
Eye to eye and head to head
(keep the measure nag)
this shall end when one is dead
Rikki-tikki- tavvi.Jungle book,and psf is going to be the loser here.

John, I am not trying to be funny but you would i...

2011-03-28T20:26:53.079+01:00

John,
I am not trying to be funny but you would imagine the Free Ps would be in their element going to a Roman Catholic funeral.
If the Free Ps do bring down Robinson, a person could only conclude that the crux which drives them has more to do with anti-Catholic hatred and less to do with their sense of Britishness.

This all sounds classic catch 22. Nationalists or ...

2011-03-28T14:33:42.591+01:00

This all sounds classic catch 22.
Nationalists or republicans would have little sway in relation to the Free P,s.
However, in spite of this we are now being told that we could suffer as a result of their raw sectarianism.
What could they unleash, that has not been unleashed before?
Their problems are the result of die hard fundamentalist attitudes and lack of tolerance.
The precarious structures on which the GFA was build now look increasingly doubtful.
Will the Free Ps give minister Mc Guinness a crack at the coveted title, I really don't think so.

John, a good piece which we are glad to have. It ...

2011-03-28T11:24:26.734+01:00

John,

a good piece which we are glad to have. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. At the launch of Ed Moloney's book on Paisley in London a few years back Paul Bew stressed the need to understand the evangelical/fundamentalist strain that was so crucial to shaping that strand of unionist opinion.