Comments on The Pensive Quill: National Republicanism

@ John Coulter There is nothing so charming (NOT) ...

2013-02-11T08:54:21.671Z

@ John Coulter There is nothing so charming (NOT) as a non native Irishman preaching liberty using the name of Christ and seeking to educate us indigenous peasants of the way forward... It seems to be the hallmark of your people.

RE: ‘National Republicanism will also re-introduce the death penalty for the murder of police officers, whether on or off duty.’
You r a real hard man now are you not? This is just ridiculous and serves no other purpose than seek to elicit ragefilled responses. Whilst i personally do not applaud militant resistance nor support it you would do well to understand why it is still around.

RE ‘Ireland has sent hundreds of Christian missionaries across the globe, especially to China, India and Brazil – three of the fastest growing economies in the world. That missionary link could be developed to create a new Celtic Tiger as Ireland cements relations with nations where its Christian missionaries worked – and still evangelize.’

GoodO! Let’s profit off Jesus again – your version = the big, anglo saxon genocidal token Jesus has done enough damage. Ka Ching! What will you sell – little Jesus statues swathed in a union jack evilly grinning with shamrocks wedged in their teeth? Holy water blessed by the Queen? Vials of blood of our martyrs to serve as a warning?

RE 'Ireland would no longer be a neutral nation, but would play a full part within NATO, as well as developing its own nuclear industry, both in weaponry and power. Given its geographical location, National Republicanism would seek to offer the island as major bases for nuclear super powers such as the United States and Russia. Fleets of ships and submarines as well as squadrons of aircraft could be stationed and serviced at Irish ports in return for substantial inward investment for Ireland.’

Hahaha Hard to believe an educated man like yerself could write such drivel. You haven’t inadvertently eaten some shrooms have you John whilst tapping out your National Republicanism theory? Trippy very trippy..I doubt you are a bonafide Christian believer more like a tripped out Masonic bumboy for that jolly band of pointyheads in England.

@ Jeanne Giffin I am glad i grew up sucking on ‘th...

2013-02-11T08:52:21.892Z

@ Jeanne Giffin I am glad i grew up sucking on ‘the withered teat of Irish Catholic Nationalism’ rather than the pusfilled, gorged teat of a Masonic goat. Leave the decimating of Catholicism to us EX Catholics thank you. RE ‘Nobody was spared from the fury of the IRA and INLA. They massacred men, women, children, babies in prams, soldiers, policemen, teenage students, barmen,’
Hint - And what were the native Irish people spared from? Who fostered division and who is the master of genocide? Who fostered the troubles? And then who called out what an aBOMBaNation it was? REDhot clue in there!
How much hate can you pack into your words... your hate propaganda blew a gasket before too long... leaving you exposed for what you are. A cretin.

People who think they know history from sanctioned...

2013-02-10T12:49:57.575Z

People who think they know history from sanctioned books and textbooks and mainstream media do my nut in. Their only skill appears to be the skill of remembering names and dates and they roll these off like theyre an authority on their chosen subject matter.

Id hazard a guess and say that in every single instance, said history buffs have neither the wit nor intelligence to scratch beneath the surface and find out who is telling the story, what their agenda is and who's funding it.

People like this only impress those who know absolutely nothing.

Belfast Bookworm, unfortunately the person is an ...

2013-02-10T11:45:07.034Z

Belfast Bookworm,

unfortunately the person is an obsessive stalker. We know the history here. I think you sensed this in an earlier comment. There is nothing you can do to help her. Ignore it and it will pass on to fresh prey.

Jeanne; ' As for Belfast Bookworm, he's a ...

2013-02-10T11:14:06.167Z

Jeanne; ' As for Belfast Bookworm, he's a classic whinging loser. If he was living on a balmy tropical island receiving daily blowjobs from a bevy of toothless pinchpricks he'd still claim to be a downtrodden, second-class citizen.'

If this wasn't so crude it would be funny but then I wouldn't have expected anything less from you.

Why have you assumed I'm male? I thought you were a feminist? You say you are on your Wikipedia pages but here I find you thinking like a man.

I'm a woman, you fool.

Feel te Love, 'Your attempts at critisism of ...

2013-02-10T10:39:53.128Z

Feel te Love,

'Your attempts at critisism of my post is pathetic,the age old tactic of mudslinging.'

Being pathetically true as opposed to being falsely true is a state that arouses no sense of discomfort. The mud that you see slung comes from sloshing about in the latrine. I have simply shone a torch in and illuminated your form, immersed in the contents.

'I doubt you would get employment as a profiler Bert as you are wide of the mark as to my background.'

One does not require an interest for the field or a grounding in psychology in order to draw accurate conclusions. No need here for complex investigative analysis. Observation and experience were suffice in calling your number correctly.
My observation was, despite the kill the dog and skin the cat type rhetoric, that your rebellion is voyeuristic rather than violent. You derive pleasure from the actions of others. It is a universal trait that characterises the bar room freedom fighter wherever one is unfortunate enough to encounter him.

Great minds think alike Alfie, the key word here b...

2013-02-10T08:17:26.445Z

Great minds think alike Alfie, the key word here being think. Hmm, might be a good idea for you to try that somtime. As for Belfast Bookworm, he's a classic whinging loser. If he was living on a balmy tropical island receiving daily blowjobs from a bevy of toothless pinchpricks he'd still claim to be a downtrodden, second-class citizen. And as for the British Army occupying Northern Ireland, well seeing as it was part of the UK, who else would have been sent in to help the RUC, the Thai Army mayhap. It's funny the PIRA was meant to kick the Brits out and instead they wound up taking orders from another Brit, the former RAF member John Stephenson.

"...the rest of you including Mackers, Mar...

2013-02-10T00:03:30.122Z
"...the rest of you including Mackers, Marty and Alfie Gallagher, are merely Fenian fascist idealogues."

Wait a minute, is that you, Pierce Martin? Don't tell me you've had a sex change!!!

Itsjustmacker, you are right. There is no point i...

2013-02-09T23:30:16.088Z
Itsjustmacker,

you are right. There is no point in curbing discussion. We take all manner of opinion even hate filled rants that have appeared in some comments lately.

John Coulter is not going to worry in the slightest about the flak he is getting, This piece has been so widely read he has got what he needs out of it.

Bookworm.... That's a great word 'egomani...

2013-02-09T21:33:36.964Z
Bookworm....

That's a great word 'egomaniacal'..

@AM.... I was away for two days and never saw a computer once - no bad thing.

Unless you're streaming footy with a good friend and a glass (several) of wine..But getting away from a PC every now and then...I'll second that.

@Tain Bo

He doesn't answer anywhere..But I reckon he reads the replies.

Jeanne: no government has pristine hands. The aw...

2013-02-09T20:00:49.567Z
Jeanne: no government has pristine hands.

The award for understatement of the year goes to you. Add that to your Wikipedia accolades.

You are right that history is full of bloodshed, wars and famine. Imperialist colonisers; Germany, France, holland, America, Spain, Belgium, Portugal and of course Britain, causing them all.

Had Madame Britannia not have dug her filthy greedy claws into Ireland there would never have been a need for the IRA that you so detest, no need for the London bomb you were caught up in.

What part of this dont you get? You regard yourself as some sort of history buff, about time you got it right and stop making an ignorant ass of yourself over the Internet.

Jeanne, No problem, no rush on the answers to the ...

2013-02-09T19:18:30.627Z
Jeanne,
No problem, no rush on the answers to the questions there is a lot there to get through. I will listen and debate with you. My first role model outside of my family was santa claus, then I learned the bitter truth, he was not real only figure myth, I accepted as fact via various sociolisation outlets but at the time he seemed to me to be a good man especially around xmas. Then, I realises what consumer led xmas is all about, and it wasnt a lot to do with jesus christ. I was young, naive, it was after then I suppose through being surrounded for years at half truths, superficial people and down right lies I developed a need for the truth and real honesty as the offical line presented to me simply didnt cut it anymore. This is why, I intend to listen, learn and experience differing points of view, no matter how much it goes against my understanding and social conscious. Debate your way through, sometimes the audience may be a "tough crowd". The truth normally brings about isolation in some form. For example, if I went onto a loyalist site and said I was a republican, I can only assume that I would be pigeon holed with the provisional movement. Or as a dissent republican, I am military minded, in which I am not, not because I am a recornation of ghandi or a percieved coward. I simply do not beleive there is anything to be gained from a military approch to the term "united Ireland". Republicans need to ask themselves what sort of united Ireland they want, Brits out, but the system to remain the same. WTF. Not for me. There is a lot to learn. Today my role models are james connolly and fidel castro.

Marty, why in the world would you think that?!! ...

2013-02-09T19:15:37.819Z
Marty,

why in the world would you think that?!!

We get them here every now and then. Then they move on.

Par for the course, you ask for opinions and then ...

2013-02-09T18:45:24.923Z
Par for the course, you ask for opinions and then launch snarling and spitting insults when my answers fail to please you. Let me just say that my first husband was a Dubliner from a staunch Fianna Fail family. His great-uncle was a former Att. Gen. of Ireland who prosecuted Neil Blaney during the Arms Crisis. Marty, I honestly thought when you asked about Brina Boru that you were referring to Brian Boru Street in Conquer Hill. Let me just close with the statement that all history is full of bloodshed, wars, betrayal, famines and persuctions. Every population in every nation at some stage suffered. The Irish need to stop blaming the Brits for everything. No government anywhere in the world have pristine hands. And I think we all agree that Abramic religions have largely been the cause of much suffering. I don't wish to diminish anybody's pain or loss. I was in London the day the IRA exploded a bomb. Several people died, I did not, but I could have fallen victim and I was frightened. That was a cruel thing to have inflicted such terror on me and indeed anytime I went to London and the IRA wanted to harm innocent strangers. I live in Sicily where revenge is commonplace but the IRA mainly killed people they didn't even know. It was wrong. Very wrong.

So Anthony and BB do we take it that Jeanne is rea...

2013-02-09T18:10:12.894Z
So Anthony and BB do we take it that Jeanne is really a bin lid?

Belfast Bookworm, believe me you don't know h...

2013-02-09T17:44:59.580Z
Belfast Bookworm,

believe me you don't know how close you are.

Jeanne; are you the same Jeanne who's written ...

2013-02-09T17:40:51.512Z
Jeanne; are you the same Jeanne who's written a Wikipedia page about herself under Jeanne Boleyn? (probably after Anne)

Who does that?? Why do you feel the need to validate your existence by doing this? Where do you even find the time - does real life not get in the way now and again?

Some of the subject headings in wiki are; famous people who've insulted me, television appearances I've made, things I've edited (which I'm assuming is about a hundred or so wiki pages you've voluntary taken upon yourself to correct) I'm in with the in-crowd and..Wait for it .... Sexiest come on lines!!

Who cares?

You are definitely having a giraffe.

I take back what I said about you being a Wa Wa. You're definitely not one of them, you're an egomaniacal nutjob with a more than a touch of OCD.

Jeanne the degree of vitirol in your comments is ...

2013-02-09T12:51:38.914Z
Jeanne

the degree of vitirol in your comments is bound to produce heated exchange. I personally disagree with you on every point bar your critiicism of the oppressive nature of institutionalised religion. Your understanding of Irish Republicanism is deeply flawed even with your vaunted knowledge of history. Like all amature historians you interpret the information to suit your own arguments.

All the terrible deeds you ascribe to republicans are present to a far greater degree in the shameful experience of British colonialism. Over the centuries, British policy in Ireland has produce human suffering on a scale equal to anywhere else in the world. The kings and queens of England who you so adore inficted massive cruelity and hardship upon the Irish people. During the great hunger landlordism and a policy of willful neglect saw over 1.000.000 Irish peasants die of starvation.

Atfer each attempt at rebellion British reprisals were often sever and wholesale. A policy of collective punishment gave rise to further grivances that would feed the desire for revenge. Often the cycle of violence created bitter sectarian conflict between catholics and protestants primarily over the land. This antagonism had its roots in the policy of plantation which robbed the Irish of their ancestoral homes creating a fundmental contradiction the effects of which are still present today.

Sectarianism is the product of colonial policy in Ireland.

Robert. Your attempts at critisism of my post is p...

2013-02-09T12:11:33.697Z
Robert. Your attempts at critisism of my post is pathetic, the age old tactic of mudslinging. You try to excuse my comment by implying I am some drunken keyboard lout. If that makes it easier for you to explain away out of hand my comment,by all means suck it up.

I made the comment with deliberate intention. If john is willing to be insensitive to the feelings of others with the content of his blog, i felt it neccessary to let him know the amount of insult and baiting present in his article. Although my method of conveying this was brutal, it was no less brutal than Johns delivery and content.

I doubt you would get employment as a profiler Bert as you are wide of the mark as to my background. Everyone has opininions and should be allowed to express them in some sphere. It is the intellectual bully that suppresses the not so articulate person and this often results in actions doing the talking.
Please Robert dont dismiss people like this, Far to many dismiss them as non thinkers, thus creating frustration. One of the reasons we have and had conflict was that those that thought they knew better did nt and dont listen.

Jeanne what is absurd about about Brian Boru,he ...

2013-02-09T12:11:16.869Z
Jeanne what is absurd about about Brian Boru,he was the last high king of Ireland historical fact, as another blogger pointed out my politics has no time for the silver spoon class or kings and queens, your rants again are all one sided even more so than the bloggers from the loyalist community who have a real on the ground knowledge of the history of the troubles and not the Thiepval version,which I suspect you are an employee of or would it be the new Loughshore building, loyalist and unionist bloggers like Robert ,Stephen can produce arguments that make us stop and think and admit that they have a point,you on the other hand think the sun shines out of the arse of your employers,you in all you rants never once admitted atrocities committed by the state or its agencies here, unlike the state itself in relation to Bloody Sunday Tony bLiar himself admitted it was a dirty war Patrick Benstead an innocent human being with learning difficulties was found butchered with his penis in his mouth butchered in the name of loyalism ,would you care to comment ms Jeanne or is your gob to full of shite.

Jeanne, fair does to you for persistently expressi...

2013-02-09T11:37:11.570Z
Jeanne, fair does to you for persistently expressing your opinion unbended, that's what blogs are for, this one thankfully is unlike P.ie or Slugger as the unnecessary bile generated by some fustrated posters tends not to become expressed here however, you are right, the war did create casualties, many of them innocent, but it was on both sides. The brit's have a long history of murdering the innocent, my own uncle, as a brit, flew bombers over Dresden, though as a human hated what he had done, they did it post war in Palestine, Aden and now Iraq and Afghanistan so it strikes me the populism with which former Volunteers are held is better deserved than those inflicting the atrocity of occupation.
I was in Norway two years ago, the man I stayed with was highly regarded locally simply because his Father had been a hero of the Ling, I work today with a Polish lassie whose family are well respected and connected because her Granda was a hero of the Polish resistance,
My point being, when people fight what Britain regards as fascism they become hero's, the men, Declan and Jim included, who fought for the freedom of Ireland and the creation of the second Republic, like their forbearers of Pearse, Rossa, O'Hanlon Connolly et. al, are amongst the downtrodden held in the same high regard, for the same reason.
I'm wholly aware the war continues in our heads and few of us can get a good understanding of the other sides issues (with the few exceptions of Bunting, Cooper, Casement), this is our main problem and them who thought a wee bit of power sharing and we'd forget all our past are wholly wrong.
Oh, northern Ireland (sic) is not British, constitutionally it's part of the united kingdom but it's part of Ireland, not Britain.

Apart from poster James, who is serious about hear...

2013-02-09T09:17:10.031Z
Apart from poster James, who is serious about hearing viewpoints which differ from his own, the rest of you including Mackers, Marty and Alfie Gallagher, are merely Fenian fascist idealogues. You cannot deal with any words or historical facts which could possibly cause the vision of Patrick Pearse to topple from the Pantheon where you have placed him along with later martyrs such as Bobby Sands, Jim Lynagh, Dolours Price and countless others. These men and women blighted an entire generation of Catholics and Protestants alike with an endless stream of bombings, shootings, punishment beatings, kneecappings, tarring-and-feathering. This calculated bloodletting was taken across the water to England, Holland, Germany, where outsiders were made to feel the scourge of your demented wrath. Nobody was spared from the fury of the IRA and INLA. They massacred men, women, children, babies in prams, soldiers, policemen, teenage students, barmen, fishmongers, shopperkeepers, disco dancers, pub- goers, cancer researchers, diners, roylas, ambassadors, the unborn, pensioners,newspaper sellers, shoppers, Australian tourists, pizza delivery men, Sunday School teachers, mill workers, shit nobody couldn't say republicans didn't put socialism in action throughout their "armed struggle". Your movement is a mess. Always was and always will be. They hijacked the Irish identity for their own egotistical purposes which was to create demagogues such as John Stephenson and Gerry Adams. Not content with destroying and poisoning future generations against one another, they seek to rewrite history making themselves noble freedom fighters who sought to redeem their downtrodden populace. Marty's question about Brian Boru is as absurd as the republican illussion of a "united Ireland". Northern Ireland is British and long may the Union Flag fly over every public edifice. You wished for my opinion. You've got it. James, I will answer each of your queations later on. I appreciate your candour and civility.

Anthony: I stated in an earlier post I would not ...

2013-02-09T00:55:26.461Z
Anthony:

I stated in an earlier post I would not comment anymore on the subject of John Coulters Piece, I have to break that promise, just to congratulate you on your comment, which, in my opinion is honest and to the point, the TPQ is what I would call, A Proper Blog Site, I congratulate you again on this post and I hope those who are not happy with replies now understand, ITs called FREE SPEECH, something we never had in our childhood, nor, in our teens, as for myself, I never had it when I became an adult, but, now we all have it, that is, IF WE TOE THE LINE!

Menace, send me your email addrss ( not for publi...

2013-02-09T00:16:32.525Z
Menace,

send me your email addrss ( not for publication) and I will get back to you

Stephen, sorry for not getting back earlier but I...

2013-02-09T00:15:46.717Z
Stephen,

sorry for not getting back earlier but I was away for two days and never saw a computer once - no bad thing.

I am not sure what your complaint is. This is a site that allows harsh commentary. There is no tiptoeing around on eggshells. I rushed thru the comments after they were posted due to being away and found them of no concern. John Coulter certainly does not care about the broadsides launched against him. I guess he sees it as par for the course, something that goes with the turf and I have no doubt he will be back with even more articles that annoy a lot of people. Protecting people from being annoyed or protecting those who annoy them from expressions of that annoyance is not what this blog is about.

It is sometimes said a good writer can be judged from the people he annoys.

The only person that can 'officially' bring people to book on the site is me, courtesy of the fact that I manage it. John Coulter was provided with the means to express his opinion and he has not been brought to book on any of his opinions. I haven't discussed it with him and have no intention of doing so. He knows all this anyway given our shared commitment to free inquiry. He will continue to post here regardless.

People are quite entitled to dismiss his view just as you are entitled to support it. We are simply asked to respect another's right to have an opinion; there is no requirement to respect the opinion they hold. I don't respect the opinion of John Coulter, just his right to have it. Nor does he respect mine. Why should he? On the question of say evolution and creationism we totally disdain each other's opinion but don't try to suppress expressions of those opinions. John Coulter is solid on the issue of anti-censorship. That's fine by me.

His view on the IRA volunteers mentioned rubs me up the wrong way but so what?