Comments on The Pensive Quill: Voting Labour

‘All I can say to that mo cara is that old war cry...

2011-04-08T21:15:53.957+01:00

‘All I can say to that mo cara is that old war cry "don’t vote, it only
encourages the b##tards".’

I can understand that sentiment.

Michaelhenry, I think it is spelt with 'u'...

2011-03-18T13:32:12.917Z

Michaelhenry,

I think it is spelt with 'u' rather than a 'li'!

AM- devil worshipper- are you confusing me with t...

2011-03-18T12:49:26.568Z

AM-

devil worshipper- are you confusing
me with that red devil Marty

Soon be time for me to look for a
cure in a class

They [ them again ] say that the
devil is in the detail- must be why
i support the people's agreement-
one for all and all for Gerry Clint

Ryan, Skeet doing that did not surprise me. If an...

2011-03-17T10:31:00.974Z

Ryan,

Skeet doing that did not surprise me. If anyone had the spirit to push himself to the limit it was Skeet. Spoke with him a few times about where things were at and we simply did not agree. An intelligent and discerning wee man he was nobody's fool. I got the impression he felt the struggle had run its course and all that could be done was to manage the retreat. He never said that but it was how I read into his general conversation.

Michaelhenry, feel free to make whatever comments...

2011-03-17T09:44:28.205Z

Michaelhenry,

feel free to make whatever comments you wish! I could have said I spoiled my vote but I didn't spoil it. Better to say I wasted it!

'If God did not want us to vote then he would not have given us Gerry Adams as a candidate.'

You are a devil worshipper!

i spoiled my vote in cork and am glad i did.all th...

2011-03-17T01:49:45.213Z

i spoiled my vote in cork and am glad i did.all that was on offer was the same old crap,those that are happy to maintain 'official ireland' maintain partition and the occupation
and to look after the wealthy elite, a bunch of careerist scum is all they are.i dont believe spoiling my vote was a waste of time as some would suggest,but another way of saying fuck you to this shower of capitalist scum.a vote every few years and they get to do what they like in between,thats not democracy thats bullshit.

Alec, 'none of the established parties in the...

2011-03-16T18:48:03.508Z

Alec,

'none of the established parties in the south present a radical challenge to the status quo; that being the capitalist economic model.'

True.

'If you accept this ... then your culpability in upholding the system is greater than were you to abstain from voting.'

True but only marginally so. Unless you actually vote against it, the difference is one of degree rather than kind.

'Bourgeois democracy offers limited power to the people to effect change within a given political framwork. What real influence do people have once they have cast their vote? The democratic process as we know it actually concentrates power in the hands of the few rather than the many.'

The world over, every society, has three types of people: those at the top, those in the middle and those at the bottom. That is hardly an original thought on my part. Power disparities are hardly exclusive to 'bourgeoise democracy.'

Alec, voting Labour has turned my life around. I ...

2011-03-16T12:57:10.165Z

Alec,

voting Labour has turned my life around. I used to be depressed and miserable. Now I am miserable and depressed.

A Chara, I believe that voting for the least harm...

2011-03-16T07:51:50.994Z

A Chara,

I believe that voting for the least harmful candidate is fair enough but I still believe if people care enough about an issue, they will organize themselves into voting blocks and will then vote for the candidate who guarantees in writing, stamped by say a justice of the peace with legal advice, with legal status a guarantee on specific issues.

I think a good starting point would be the Gerry McGeough campaign being organized with a petition, with legal status before the next election. modern communication methods like Twitter and Facebook should make this feasible.

Beir Bua !

boru

How bout Skeet Hamilton waiting in line to vote on...

2011-03-16T02:08:18.161Z

How bout Skeet Hamilton waiting in line to vote on the day he died. I can think of many things I'd do if I had less than 24 hours to live but waiting in line at 6AM to cast a vote for Gerry A just is not one of them. But to each his own. May he rest in peace.

Mackers, none of the established parties in the so...

2011-03-16T00:18:33.913Z

Mackers, none of the established parties in the south present a radical challenge to the status quot; that being the capitalist economic model. If you accept this, and i'm sure you will have something to say about it, then you culpability in upholding the system is greater than were you to abstain from voting.

Bourgeois democracy offers limited power to the people to effect change within a given political framwork. What real influence do people have once they have cast their vote? The democratic process as we know it actually concentrates power in the hands of the few rather than the many.

AM- I could make a few smart comments- but to wha...

2011-03-15T22:08:20.491Z

AM-

I could make a few smart comments-
but to what avail- better to hold back some-times in case some day you box me into a corner

You could have easily said that you
spoiled your vote- or did not vote
but as you say democracy means that you can do what you want- or what you think and hope is right

If God did not want us to vote then he would not have given us Gerry Adams as a candidate.

All I can say to that mo cara is that old war cry...

2011-03-15T21:19:28.756Z

All I can say to that mo cara is that old war cry "dont vote,it only encourages the b##tards"I think its a pity there was not a national boycott of the elections, the turmoil this would have caused may just have opened the door for a whole new generation of fresh new people with fresh ideas ,and not as you yourself has stated "just rearranging the deck chairs" Ireland needs a party of the left and not a bunch of political carpetbaggers who are no more socialist than than psf is a republican party.the next few years are going to expose the Labour party as careerist opportunists with nothing more than crocidile tears for those they claim to represent,it hopefully will be an opportunity for genuine socialists to unite,but somehow given the history of socialism here I doubt it, but I still live in hope.