tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post9123307239405886533..comments2009-04-12T08:05:21.066+01:00AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-31931702653791126652009-04-12T08:05:00.000+01:002009-04-12T08:05:00.000+01:00Thanks to whoever sent this link <BR/><BR/>http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/Eames-pays-tribute-to-work.5127688.jpAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-32821461819795412992009-04-10T22:29:00.000+01:002009-04-10T22:29:00.000+01:00Alex, stop being sensible. You will only annoy people.AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-74498589439704959472009-04-10T22:04:00.000+01:002009-04-10T22:04:00.000+01:00Have long thought what Anonymous wrote "The truth is that the Norn Irish psyche is disturbed etc" Apart from the obviously abnormal sectarian mndset as a starting point as far as I know no psychiatrist has ever investigated the detrimental effects of 50-60 years Unionist misrule on pyschological make-up of the minority nor the effects of 30 years bonbings, sectarian murders, internment, repression and so forth on individuals from both sides of the community or on communities as a whole. <BR/>Furthermore, apart from some (inevitably unsuccessful) heroic individual efforts or attempts by small groups, there has never been any serious attempt to eradicate sectarianism through mass media campaigns, ads, TV soap operas and so on. One can only presume the status quo suits everyone. AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-45618213336242627892009-04-10T21:53:00.000+01:002009-04-10T21:53:00.000+01:00Sophie, good trait - a willingness to pull back from a position you conclude is wrong. If only we could all do it discussion and debate would be much less heated. People would defend positions and arguments rather than egos.AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-36847749174411229062009-04-10T21:17:00.000+01:002009-04-10T21:17:00.000+01:00<I>Sophie, wrong on this one. Nothing uncomplimentary was thrown the way of Denis. I have no disparaging feelings towards him and am in fact on good terms with him. I expressed no moral view on either man's clericalism past or present. Merely flagged it up to illustrate Brit thinking.</I><BR/><BR/>Clever clogs! :) On re-reading I stand corrected....Sophie.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-19820153544326613342009-04-10T21:04:00.000+01:002009-04-10T21:04:00.000+01:0096cambridge, this is the type of question that demands a longer response than time permits here. But it is a question that has been around a long time. The pattern of sectarian voting will not be broken. The North is state in a sectarian society and reflects and reproduces those divisions. As has often been said sectarianism has been institutionalised not transcended since the GFA<BR/><BR/>Sophie, wrong on this one. Nothing uncomplimentary was thrown the way of Denis. I have no disparaging feelings towards him and am in fact on good terms with him. I expressed no moral view on either man's clericalism past or present. Merely flagged it up to illustrate Brit thinking.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous, that is some take. Must give that a bit of thought. You seem even more sceptical than I do.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous, Conor Cruise O’Brien perhaps gave us an acronym that would best describe it – GUBU. McGuinness may as well have said Derry will put a spacecraft on Jupiter by 2014. He has become so far removed from the base that it should actually consider replacing him.AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-42300147795669824112009-04-10T13:47:00.000+01:002009-04-10T13:47:00.000+01:00No need to worry anymore about past problems we all had,The Deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland has announced that we will be all living happy ever after in a UNITED IRELAND by 2014,is this man really serious, is this the man we place all our trust in to govern a part of this island, has he jumped ship and joined the Raving Looney Party , what next from this British MP, so folks no need to worry about will we ever see a United Ireland , no need for truth and recrimination anymore <BR/>PS does First Minister still believe in SantaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-11290566326812819442009-04-09T17:13:00.000+01:002009-04-09T17:13:00.000+01:00The truth is that the Norn Irish psyche is disturbed. The only reconciliation possible is for the individual to reconcile him or herself to that truth. In my honest opinion, every single one of us is in need of professional help. We are disturbed, scarred and demented. The addition of money and materialism has produced nothing but bewilderment and depression. The "Leadership", across the board, is chasing its tail while the rest of us sit in the corner starring at the lights! Ach sure, a "United Ireland" will fix that...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-37209515394975199492009-04-09T10:08:00.000+01:002009-04-09T10:08:00.000+01:00During the decommissioning process we had a similar scenario. Two clerics, one from each tribe going along as witnesses to see for themselves and convey to the rest of us that the guns were indeed put beyond use. The British in that situation also protrayed themselves as neutral, and didn't send in an army chaplin of their own. They could have. The winning army represented when the guns were being taken away from the unsuccessful insurgents. The forces of good conquering the forces of evil. Yet they didn't because they knew sooner or later someone would emerge from the woodwork to doubt them. The fact that it was another cleric in the form of Paisley was the best entertainment in the mix. Then we had the gaffe from the Redemptorist who developed a serious case of foot and mouth. War within the God squad.<BR/><BR/>This time around, they didn't use two clerics. I think in some way you are flagging up Denis' past in a way that is uncomplementary to him. I don't know if he is a man of faith or not now, but he's certainly been around a long time within this process, and he's no fool. He must have known that they were trying to do the impossible and that in the end they'd please no body.<BR/><BR/>The squabbles that emerged were a foregone conclusion. They emerged over decommissioning, over the early release of prisoners, over the DUP joining in Govt with SF. But imv they will die away, like the rest before them.<BR/><BR/>It was a huge blunder to try to buy off the families, but the HET hasn't been successful and costs a fortune, perhaps they thought why not give the families something?<BR/><BR/>Theres money for commissioners who are neither use nor ornament, infact no shortage of money for all sorts of things, maybe they just wanted to redress the balance and give the families of all victims something. No hierarchy,no intent to buy them off even though it came out looking that way, just something for their trouble? <BR/><BR/>I think it was Brian Feeney who wrote that Eames and Bradley were just two decent men trying to do the right thing, I've yet to read anything to change my mind on that.Sophie.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-74226471443694169272009-04-09T00:07:00.000+01:002009-04-09T00:07:00.000+01:00ClealD there are massive gaps between communities in the north. do you think these gaps can be bridged in any politically significant way, namely someway of breaking he sectarian pattern of voting? If so how? If not, why not?96cambridgehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01481013510515056679noreply@blogger.com